Intercontinental shipping of a yacht
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Anyone here have any knowledge of or contacts that can assist in giving me an idea of costs for intercontinental shipping of a boat, either deck cargo or container shipped
I have been looking about for a keelboat of around 35 ft for a while now, and am finding that there is not that much that appeals to me out here, in either condition or style.
So am concidering moving my search to Europe / Australia / America.
The size i am looking at should be able to fit in a 40 ft container, perhaps even including the mast if i am lucky!!
anyone got any knowledge / experiance in this field?
I have been looking about for a keelboat of around 35 ft for a while now, and am finding that there is not that much that appeals to me out here, in either condition or style.
So am concidering moving my search to Europe / Australia / America.
The size i am looking at should be able to fit in a 40 ft container, perhaps even including the mast if i am lucky!!
anyone got any knowledge / experiance in this field?
We used to carry a lot of yachts back from the middle east as deck carg so it would indicate tht it is viable cost wise. Fitting into a container should, if correctly secured make it easier and cheaper.
Cant give you figures but if you are happy that a yacht would fit into a 40 ft container and have a reasonable idea of cost any freight agent dealing with the oint of manufacture and delivery could give you a pretty good idea for you to cast into the purchase price.
You could always sail it back
Cant give you figures but if you are happy that a yacht would fit into a 40 ft container and have a reasonable idea of cost any freight agent dealing with the oint of manufacture and delivery could give you a pretty good idea for you to cast into the purchase price.
You could always sail it back
martinmac said:
You could always sail it back
Hmmm UK to Singapore ehh .... thats 8000 miles as the Boeing 747 flies .... i i recall correctly the tea clippers of old used to do it in something like 58 days ... driving both boat and crew to destruction in the process ..... not that viable i dont think, although would love to do it some time at a more leasurely pace!
Cheers for teh other pointers though, and good idea on contacting origional manufacturer as an idea too.
XJSJohn , here is a idea for you , there are many many boats in yards all over the Caribbean where owners have parked them up and they have come to rest and basically go for nothing and the yard fee's need paying .Also the dollar-Stirling rate is advantageous.
Get the boat sorted over there and use it over there instead of bringing it back to the cold U.K. The 10's of thousands you will save will pay for your airfare for the next 10 years .
Get the boat sorted over there and use it over there instead of bringing it back to the cold U.K. The 10's of thousands you will save will pay for your airfare for the next 10 years .
Rum Runner said:
XJSJohn , here is a idea for you , there are many many boats in yards all over the Caribbean where owners have parked them up and they have come to rest and basically go for nothing and the yard fee's need paying .Also the dollar-Stirling rate is advantageous.
Get the boat sorted over there and use it over there instead of bringing it back to the cold U.K. The 10's of thousands you will save will pay for your airfare for the next 10 years .
Wrong Way around .... i live in Singapore and have no intention of going back to dreary old england.Get the boat sorted over there and use it over there instead of bringing it back to the cold U.K. The 10's of thousands you will save will pay for your airfare for the next 10 years .
Now, shipping something from the Carib to Singa is an option ....
Not after some heavyweight bluewater cruiser either though ... singapore is equatorial doldrums, so we get 2 good monsoons that blow for 6 months of the year, then light airs .. so seeking something ike an X boat or the ilk.
Rum Runner said:
XJSJohn , here is a idea for you , there are many many boats in yards all over the Caribbean where owners have parked them up and they have come to rest and basically go for nothing and the yard fee's need paying .Also the dollar-Stirling rate is advantageous.
Get the boat sorted over there and use it over there instead of bringing it back to the cold U.K. The 10's of thousands you will save will pay for your airfare for the next 10 years .
Someone else told me that too...but where do you find details of the boats, without traipsing all over the islands..?Get the boat sorted over there and use it over there instead of bringing it back to the cold U.K. The 10's of thousands you will save will pay for your airfare for the next 10 years .
I am in Panama at the mo, not many boats for sale here.
Hear are some . http://www.caribbeancompass.com/
http://www.allatsea.net/.
let me know what you are after and i will try and help , in the last few months i have just helped a Guy buy a 47ft proper Cat and put it in charter .This the web page just to get he boat off the blocks , is now be sorted . http://www.cyabrochure.com/eb/727/rpr/1956/1.
I have a few good broker contacts let me know then I can point you in the right direction for the £ range .
http://www.allatsea.net/.
let me know what you are after and i will try and help , in the last few months i have just helped a Guy buy a 47ft proper Cat and put it in charter .This the web page just to get he boat off the blocks , is now be sorted . http://www.cyabrochure.com/eb/727/rpr/1956/1.
I have a few good broker contacts let me know then I can point you in the right direction for the £ range .
XJSJohn
I may well know of a good Swan 46 Mk2 91' , lots of kit, in mast furling , all electric winches , genny , AC ,racing rags and kit, etc. and I have just taken it to Turkey last month .I am back out on the boat in Jan with the owner who is a good friend , he is toying with the idea of a Cat.( I am also telling him it is the way to go )
He has had the boat for around 4 years , its not on the market as but could be at anytime .
This may fit your rough requirements ,XJSjohn , in fact he was after a X482 but it fell through and went for the swan, which in the end probably was better for a circumnav ( owners second) as it was built at time when Swans were good for a reason , proper solid, over engineered but sails on finger tips in blow with plenty of feel and high geared steering similar to a X , slamming does not occur we had 50knts on the nose and it was like being in a modern a 15 no problem just the 2 of us and easy to handle , oh and it comes with a Sydney Hobart brass.
I may well know of a good Swan 46 Mk2 91' , lots of kit, in mast furling , all electric winches , genny , AC ,racing rags and kit, etc. and I have just taken it to Turkey last month .I am back out on the boat in Jan with the owner who is a good friend , he is toying with the idea of a Cat.( I am also telling him it is the way to go )
He has had the boat for around 4 years , its not on the market as but could be at anytime .
This may fit your rough requirements ,XJSjohn , in fact he was after a X482 but it fell through and went for the swan, which in the end probably was better for a circumnav ( owners second) as it was built at time when Swans were good for a reason , proper solid, over engineered but sails on finger tips in blow with plenty of feel and high geared steering similar to a X , slamming does not occur we had 50knts on the nose and it was like being in a modern a 15 no problem just the 2 of us and easy to handle , oh and it comes with a Sydney Hobart brass.
Edited by Rum Runner on Saturday 15th December 22:47
That Swan sounds cracking but probably a bit bigger than i am after.
Looking for something in the Mid 30 ft range that makes for a fast passage maker in light airs, or can be sailied Single handed / two handed comfortably or accomodate 4 or 5 beer swilling lads.
Moving much bigger starts to seriously restrict your access to many islands in the South China Sea due to coral reefs or very small quayside moorings.
A cat is the preferable option out here but this is to be a private boat not a charterer, and i just cannot bring myself to like the external aesthetics of a cat yet.
Also want something that has less nice fancy woodwork inside as the himudity here (it will be mored off mangroves in 90% + humidity and equitorial sunlight all year round ... this right royally
woodowrk up internally and externally.
I will have a flip through those links you sent though.
Looking for something in the Mid 30 ft range that makes for a fast passage maker in light airs, or can be sailied Single handed / two handed comfortably or accomodate 4 or 5 beer swilling lads.
Moving much bigger starts to seriously restrict your access to many islands in the South China Sea due to coral reefs or very small quayside moorings.
A cat is the preferable option out here but this is to be a private boat not a charterer, and i just cannot bring myself to like the external aesthetics of a cat yet.
Also want something that has less nice fancy woodwork inside as the himudity here (it will be mored off mangroves in 90% + humidity and equitorial sunlight all year round ... this right royally
woodowrk up internally and externally.I will have a flip through those links you sent though.
Cool John no worries , the Swan though is easily sailed by 2 .
As Cats go i am a total convert after more than 20 year of looking after boats and some good racing boats and running campaigns i would have nothing else , as the value for money for space for , maneuverability , not rolling on anchor etc.
Have look on here at 47 ft cat , and plenty of monohulls .( oh and these Cats look good and i lived on one for 2 years with my wife , superb).
http://www.yachtworld.com/privatelabel/listing/cac...
What you will find is the boats are generally in very good nick ,especially x crewed boats and smaller mono's less than 40 odd ft as they are used very little in the Carib a friend of mine has a 36ft which was hardly used and very cheap. They may not be X boats but the prices are good .And they come with very indepth surveys if bought from the BVI.
As Cats go i am a total convert after more than 20 year of looking after boats and some good racing boats and running campaigns i would have nothing else , as the value for money for space for , maneuverability , not rolling on anchor etc.
Have look on here at 47 ft cat , and plenty of monohulls .( oh and these Cats look good and i lived on one for 2 years with my wife , superb).
http://www.yachtworld.com/privatelabel/listing/cac...
What you will find is the boats are generally in very good nick ,especially x crewed boats and smaller mono's less than 40 odd ft as they are used very little in the Carib a friend of mine has a 36ft which was hardly used and very cheap. They may not be X boats but the prices are good .And they come with very indepth surveys if bought from the BVI.
Edited by Rum Runner on Sunday 16th December 10:48
When I looked previously, the cheapest way of shipping was as a RoRo shipment on a trailer.
There are direct services from florida (can't remember which city I'm afraid) to southampton for example.
Certainly specialist yacht shippers are $$$$$$, am unsure about containers though.
For shipping a yacht I guess you would need to be careful of the overall height on the trailer.
And do have the whole thing shrinkwrapped to help avoid light fingers on the journey.
There are direct services from florida (can't remember which city I'm afraid) to southampton for example.
Certainly specialist yacht shippers are $$$$$$, am unsure about containers though.
For shipping a yacht I guess you would need to be careful of the overall height on the trailer.
And do have the whole thing shrinkwrapped to help avoid light fingers on the journey.
MattYorke said:
When I looked previously, the cheapest way of shipping was as a RoRo shipment on a trailer.
There are direct services from florida (can't remember which city I'm afraid) to southampton for example.
Certainly specialist yacht shippers are $$$$$$, am unsure about containers though.
For shipping a yacht I guess you would need to be careful of the overall height on the trailer.
And do have the whole thing shrinkwrapped to help avoid light fingers on the journey.
There are direct services from florida (can't remember which city I'm afraid) to southampton for example.
Certainly specialist yacht shippers are $$$$$$, am unsure about containers though.
For shipping a yacht I guess you would need to be careful of the overall height on the trailer.
And do have the whole thing shrinkwrapped to help avoid light fingers on the journey.
.... you mean RoRo on an auto carrier??? Lay the mast on the deck and condom wrap the whole thing in cling film.... cunning idea, Hi. I would say contact a company called Peters & May based in Southampton. We get lots of request to ship yachts which are all shapes and sizes on our vessels. Depending on size we quote either on the weather deck or under deck, but the size you are mentionsing would be shipped underdeck no problem.
I only do South America and West Africa, but Peters & May would be able to advice on shipment elsewhere.
Henry
I only do South America and West Africa, but Peters & May would be able to advice on shipment elsewhere.
Henry
Many thanks Bracken, will drop them a line.
Just doing the feasability study aspect of things at the moment, had first quote back, based on the following dimensions (which i know will fit in a 40 ft container when the boat is new, i.e. without keel fitted)
Maximum Length – 11.00M
Maximum Width – 3.7M
Total Height – 3.8M
Total Weight 6,500kg
I have been quoted from BVI / Miami to Singapore at $US35k. Sounds a bit high given that i can get 40 ft containers here for $US10k so will have to see what other quotes come in at.
Just doing the feasability study aspect of things at the moment, had first quote back, based on the following dimensions (which i know will fit in a 40 ft container when the boat is new, i.e. without keel fitted)
Maximum Length – 11.00M
Maximum Width – 3.7M
Total Height – 3.8M
Total Weight 6,500kg
I have been quoted from BVI / Miami to Singapore at $US35k. Sounds a bit high given that i can get 40 ft containers here for $US10k so will have to see what other quotes come in at.
village idiot said:
have you seen the new 37ft Farr which is designed to fit in a container?
.... drop me a line... i've got 900+ yachts on my books at present, so i'm sure there should be something that appeals!
Yes i have, very cool it is too, unfortunately its a little too racy for my own personal requirements!!.... drop me a line... i've got 900+ yachts on my books at present, so i'm sure there should be something that appeals!
I have access to a MUMM30 and an F16 cat for being mental!! I just want a cheap fast cruiser, something along the lines of one of the various older X-Yachts in the 32 - 34ft range, or a Dehler 34 / 36, or or or ....
I will drop you a line though and see what you may have once i have some more "Specs"
BTW did you know that all the Dehlers are designed to fit in a container too ... even back 20 years ago
XJSJohn said:
Hmmm UK to Singapore ehh .... thats 8000 miles as the Boeing 747 flies ....
i i recall correctly the tea clippers of old used to do it in something like 58 days ... driving both boat and crew to destruction in the process ..... not that viable i dont think, although would love to do it some time at a more leasurely pace!
Cheers for teh other pointers though, and good idea on contacting origional manufacturer as an idea too.
Have trapeze harness. Will travel.i i recall correctly the tea clippers of old used to do it in something like 58 days ... driving both boat and crew to destruction in the process ..... not that viable i dont think, although would love to do it some time at a more leasurely pace!
Cheers for teh other pointers though, and good idea on contacting origional manufacturer as an idea too.
Snoggledog said:
XJSJohn said:
Hmmm UK to Singapore ehh .... thats 8000 miles as the Boeing 747 flies ....
i i recall correctly the tea clippers of old used to do it in something like 58 days ... driving both boat and crew to destruction in the process ..... not that viable i dont think, although would love to do it some time at a more leasurely pace!
Cheers for teh other pointers though, and good idea on contacting origional manufacturer as an idea too.
Have trapeze harness. Will travel.i i recall correctly the tea clippers of old used to do it in something like 58 days ... driving both boat and crew to destruction in the process ..... not that viable i dont think, although would love to do it some time at a more leasurely pace!
Cheers for teh other pointers though, and good idea on contacting origional manufacturer as an idea too.
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