Boats - rubbish

[KUB3]

I took a sunseeker style power boat out for a spin with a few mates last week.

This craft was apparently getting on for 3/4 of a million sterling. Bit of a joke really when you look at how it's made - a huge plastic bath tub filled with tat - exposed bolt threads, chemical toilet, rover-esq fake plastic wood dash, diesel lorry engines, etc.

They clearly spend far more marketing than manufacturing them. To part with this much cash their owners are clearly 'nice but dim' types. The boat yards must be making an absolute fortune punting these on. Each sale is like a lottery win. I'm in the wrong game

[Huntsman]

KUB3 said:

I took a sunseeker style power boat out for a spin with a few mates last week.

This craft was apparently getting on for 3/4 of a million sterling. Bit of a joke really when you look at how it's made - a huge plastic bath tub filled with tat - exposed bolt threads, chemical toilet, rover-esq fake plastic wood dash, diesel lorry engines, etc.

They clearly spend far more marketing than manufacturing them. To part with this much cash their owners are clearly 'nice but dim' types. The boat yards must be making an absolute fortune punting these on. Each sale is like a lottery win. I'm in the wrong game

Sunseeker miss the point a bit, they build their bigger boats the same way as they build the smaller ones using the same equipment, just bigger, of course, when you build a bigger boats the owner expects higher quality parts, proper stuff.

For bigger boats its best to buy custom or semi custom, like Leopard, you buy a hull and deck moulding and have it fitted out to your spec, Leoppard will do almost anything you ask, but its significantly more expensvie than Sunseeker. Flemming do less customisation but are built properly, different boats for different markets. Sunseeker are the cheap tat end of bigger boats.

ETA - just noticed you said 'sunseeker style' - what was it?

Edited by Huntsman on Sunday 8th July 03:08

[bga]

Sunseeker & Princess are lower-mid range boats & the quality reflects that. Fairline are a bit better but as Huntsman says, to get the good quality stuff you really have to pay for it.

With all big boats, the amount of labour that goes into them is huge, as is the cost of materials.

[tomTVR]

Depends what you want out of a boat and how much you have to spend. I look at them in the same way i look at cars - in that way i prefer a sports car to a luxury saloon. In that respect i think Sunseekers are the best looking - superhawk and predator are very sleek, they can be also be very fast with 3 x 1000bhp truck engines

Edited by tomTVR on Sunday 8th July 16:03

[KUB3]

We were on a large Fairline Targa. It looked pretty much like the sunseekers we were next to.

The only boats I've seen that look stunning are made by Wally. Not suprising, looking at the retail prices. I guessed the 118 would be around £4m. That was £10m short!

Edited by KUB3 on Sunday 8th July 17:04

[Mahatma Bag]

Some stunning ones made by Riva - this one is second hand and is for sale for 3/4 million Euros:

[Snoggledog]

Mahatma Bag said:

Some stunning ones made by Riva - this one is second hand and is for sale for 3/4 million Euros:

Now you're talking.. As a confirmed sailor I'd happily sell my soul for an old Riva Aquarama or Ariston. Proper motor boats.

[KUB3]

The old Riva Aquarama is the DB5 of the waves. Trouble is it's a bit petite for group outings. Mind you, at least it makes most others look like B&Q bathtubs.

[MattYorke]

I lurvvv Rivas.

I did a poker run this weekend on the solent, a friends sunseeker xs is quite a capable boat in a bit of chop. Not particularly well built though, already showing some stress cracks.

Was also a rather nice Hustler out having a play.

[bga]

MattYorke said:

Not particularly well built though, already showing some stress cracks.

How old is the boat? If reasonably new then it has been hammered very hard or hull hasn't been laid up properly

[Mahatma Bag]

Cigarettes can look pretty good too.

[MitchT]

Snoggledog said:

As a confirmed sailor I'd happily sell my soul for an old Riva Aquarama or Ariston. Proper motor boats.

I'm not a sailor by any stretch of the imagination... but I'd buy a Riva Aquarama just to look at it if I had the cash spare! It's certainly something to add to my future goals list. What sort of license do you need to pilot one of these beautiful craft?

[Mahatma Bag]

MitchT said:

Snoggledog said:

As a confirmed sailor I'd happily sell my soul for an old Riva Aquarama or Ariston. Proper motor boats.

I'm not a sailor by any stretch of the imagination... but I'd buy a Riva Aquarama just to look at it if I had the cash spare! It's certainly something to add to my future goals list. What sort of license do you need to pilot one of these beautiful craft?

License? Boat?

Aquaramas have TWIN V8s - delicious boats.

[joe@eliteyachtco]

cant wait to show you my new website its goig to be ace! We are now cigarette dealers for the uk and will be trying to arrange demo days in the uk. we have a few ph members intrested allready are were thinking about doing a ph saturday demo! ps how long/hard work are website builders we have our own in house team and they keemp changing there mind on how it sould look. doing my head in but when its done it should look great.

[biglepton]

Would've thought the average PH'er would be inclined more towards Hunton Powerboats. If a Scumseeker is the nautical equivalent of a Merc E220CDI estate with 22" AMG wheels, then Huntons are somewhere between a Noble and an Aston, but with better handling!

http://www.huntonpowerboats.com/

[MOTORVATOR]

MattYorke said:

I lurvvv Rivas.

I did a poker run this weekend on the solent, a friends sunseeker xs is quite a capable boat in a bit of chop. Not particularly well built though, already showing some stress cracks.

Was also a rather nice Hustler out having a play.

Ooh how much is the sh*t gonna hit the fan when a certain Boatmad member finds pistonheads

Don't worry I won't dob you in

Anyway Phantoms and Revengers rule if you want anything close to a track boat

[joe@eliteyachtco]

www.cigaretteracing.com have a look. like i said we a dealer for the uk and the finish is just WOW! Real POWER boats! like i said there will be a new website up v soon where you can put your name down for our event. it would be great to have some ph peps there. also have our other boats there to.

[Mastiff]

Mahatma Bag said:

Some stunning ones made by Riva - this one is second hand and is for sale for 3/4 million Euros:

Now THAT is a ing beautiful thing...

[MattYorke]

Boatwhat?

MOTORVATOR said:

MattYorke said:

I lurvvv Rivas.

I did a poker run this weekend on the solent, a friends sunseeker xs is quite a capable boat in a bit of chop. Not particularly well built though, already showing some stress cracks.

Was also a rather nice Hustler out having a play.

Ooh how much is the sh*t gonna hit the fan when a certain Boatmad member finds pistonheads

Don't worry I won't dob you in

Anyway Phantoms and Revengers rule if you want anything close to a track boat

[jvaughan]

KUB3 said:

I took a sunseeker style power boat out for a spin with a few mates last week.

This craft was apparently getting on for 3/4 of a million sterling. Bit of a joke really when you look at how it's made - a huge plastic bath tub filled with tat - exposed bolt threads, chemical toilet, rover-esq fake plastic wood dash, diesel lorry engines, etc.

They clearly spend far more marketing than manufacturing them. To part with this much cash their owners are clearly 'nice but dim' types. The boat yards must be making an absolute fortune punting these on. Each sale is like a lottery win. I'm in the wrong game

OK, so were saying Sunseeker have TVR Build quality then ?

Couldnt agree more though ... More a Princess / Marine Dynamics fan myself