Tornadoes over Lake Garda

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heisthegaffer

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Tuesday 30th July
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Sadly no snaps but was delighted to see some tornadoes over Lake Garda last few days - brilliant.

fridaypassion

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Tuesday 30th July
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You could definitely optimise this thread with the addition of some photos.

Tony1963

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169 months

Tuesday 30th July
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Tornados

JOldcastle

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104 months

Tuesday 30th July
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F3, gr4?

Tony1963

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169 months

Tuesday 30th July
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JOldcastle said:
F3, gr4?
F3 would be impossible.

whiteonyx

369 posts

222 months

Wednesday 31st July
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Italian Tornados are based in Verona, saw some flying last month

heisthegaffer

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Wednesday 31st July
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fridaypassion said:
You could definitely optimise this thread with the addition of some photos.
Yes... I've got one photo but very grainy and look more like Eurofighters


heisthegaffer

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Wednesday 31st July
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Tony1963 said:
Tornados
I'm actually furious with myself for this incorrect spelling.

heisthegaffer

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Wednesday 31st July
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whiteonyx said:
Italian Tornados are based in Verona, saw some flying last month
That's where we're flying from - will look out the window when we take off.

24lemons

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192 months

Wednesday 31st July
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We will be in Bolzano in September, I wonder if there’s any chance we’ll see some then?

Tony1963

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Wednesday 31st July
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heisthegaffer said:
I'm actually furious with myself for this incorrect spelling.
Combine your fury with my attitude to misspelling aircraft names, especially in the plural… we could rule the weld!

aeropilot

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234 months

Wednesday 31st July
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Tony1963 said:
JOldcastle said:
F3, gr4?
F3 would be impossible.
As would GR.4 wink

heisthegaffer

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Wednesday 31st July
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Tony1963 said:
heisthegaffer said:
I'm actually furious with myself for this incorrect spelling.
Combine your fury with my attitude to misspelling aircraft names, especially in the plural… we could rule the weld!
Very good mate!

Eric Mc

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Wednesday 31st July
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German and Italian Tornados (phew - dodged that bullet) are usually designated the Tornado IDS.





Tony1963

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Wednesday 31st July
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Eric Mc said:
German and Italian Tornados (phew - dodged that bullet) are usually designated the Tornado IDS.

No.

The IDS can be GR1, 4 and anything else bomby or reconnaissancey.
The ADV can be F2, F2a, F3….

Edited by Tony1963 on Wednesday 31st July 18:15

Prawo Jazdy

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221 months

Wednesday 31st July
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Eric Mc said:
German and Italian Tornados (phew - dodged that bullet) are usually designated the Tornado IDS.
I can’t abide it when aviation people use acronyms. Please explain all acronyms!

BTW (by the way), why is it impossible to be a GR4/F3 etc? Were they only called that by the RAF (Royal Air Force) or something?

MarkwG

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196 months

Wednesday 31st July
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Prawo Jazdy said:
Eric Mc said:
German and Italian Tornados (phew - dodged that bullet) are usually designated the Tornado IDS.
I can’t abide it when aviation people use acronyms. Please explain all acronyms!

BTW (by the way), why is it impossible to be a GR4/F3 etc? Were they only called that by the RAF (Royal Air Force) or something?
ISWYDT wink

Tony1963

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169 months

Thursday 1st August
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Prawo Jazdy said:
I can’t abide it when aviation people use acronyms. Please explain all acronyms!

BTW (by the way), why is it impossible to be a GR4/F3 etc? Were they only called that by the RAF (Royal Air Force) or something?
Google/Wikipedia are your friends, use them.
Would you want to type ‘interdictor strike’ or ‘air defence variant’ very often?

There are no airworthy Tornado ADVs, the last were flown by Qinetiq and retired in July 2012.

(I’ve heard that an American billionaire has bought F2a with the intention of making it airworthy)

Edited by Tony1963 on Thursday 1st August 08:59

Tony1963

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Thursday 1st August
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As an addition to my post above, this is the guy who bought the F2a recently



This is how it was advertised

Ex Royal Air Force PANAVIA Tornado F2A ZD902 ADV for sale. MACH 2.2 Fast Jet interceptor. The Only F2A variant Tornado aircraft in existence. This is a rare ”T-Bird” Twin Stick variant of the Tornado with full flying controls in both the front and rear cockpits. Airframe hours are a ridiculously low 935 hrs. Fitted with RB199 Mk103 afterburning turbofan engines, this former Royal Aircraft Establishment Trial Aircraft was used for Sea Harrier FA2 radar trials and for avionics research and evaluation. The cockpit is one of a kind modified with MFD screens and a prototype holographic head up display.

This Air Defence Variant, known as TIARA (Tornado Integrated Avionics Research Aircraft) was built in 1984 and was last flown in November 2011. She comes complete with MOD F700 as well as a detailed print out log of all the flights ever flown including landing, take-off, rollers and arrested landings she ever performed.

This is a once in a lifetime opportunity. The aircraft was fully assembled on 7th December 2015 prior to us dismantling and extracting for road haulage. The photos showing the assembled aircraft were taken that day prior to disasembly. Aircraft was fully fueled with a defuel conducted on 3rd November 2015 when external power was last applied. All fuel pumps were run during the defuel process. Internal battery electrical power was last applied on 7th Dec 2015 as part of the dismantling process and cockpit lighting systems tested at this time. The aircraft is now in storage in a heated hangar as per the photo above in a dismantled state. The aircraft was hydraulically sound prior to being dismantled with accumulators charged. This should give an idea of how intact and complete this aircraft is, truly an incredibly rare opportunity to own one of our most exciting aircraft to date!

We are now accepting offers. Please contact us for further details and for full technical specification as well as terms of sale.”

heisthegaffer

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Thursday 1st August
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Tony1963 said:
As an addition to my post above, this is the guy who bought the F2a recently



This is how it was advertised

Ex Royal Air Force PANAVIA Tornado F2A ZD902 ADV for sale. MACH 2.2 Fast Jet interceptor. The Only F2A variant Tornado aircraft in existence. This is a rare ”T-Bird” Twin Stick variant of the Tornado with full flying controls in both the front and rear cockpits. Airframe hours are a ridiculously low 935 hrs. Fitted with RB199 Mk103 afterburning turbofan engines, this former Royal Aircraft Establishment Trial Aircraft was used for Sea Harrier FA2 radar trials and for avionics research and evaluation. The cockpit is one of a kind modified with MFD screens and a prototype holographic head up display.

This Air Defence Variant, known as TIARA (Tornado Integrated Avionics Research Aircraft) was built in 1984 and was last flown in November 2011. She comes complete with MOD F700 as well as a detailed print out log of all the flights ever flown including landing, take-off, rollers and arrested landings she ever performed.

This is a once in a lifetime opportunity. The aircraft was fully assembled on 7th December 2015 prior to us dismantling and extracting for road haulage. The photos showing the assembled aircraft were taken that day prior to disasembly. Aircraft was fully fueled with a defuel conducted on 3rd November 2015 when external power was last applied. All fuel pumps were run during the defuel process. Internal battery electrical power was last applied on 7th Dec 2015 as part of the dismantling process and cockpit lighting systems tested at this time. The aircraft is now in storage in a heated hangar as per the photo above in a dismantled state. The aircraft was hydraulically sound prior to being dismantled with accumulators charged. This should give an idea of how intact and complete this aircraft is, truly an incredibly rare opportunity to own one of our most exciting aircraft to date!

We are now accepting offers. Please contact us for further details and for full technical specification as well as terms of sale.”
Are there plans to fly this Tornadoe?