Person killed by jet engine at Schiphol Airport
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Does look like it was a suicide, suprised passengers can get that close to an engine running fast enough to do that but guess they are there and people can be pretty single minded.
Expect they just bury the engine, was told by an ex BAE Hatfield engineer mate that someone was sucked into a 146 engine years back and they buried the engine on site once the NTSB and whatever investigation had been concluded.
Expect they just bury the engine, was told by an ex BAE Hatfield engineer mate that someone was sucked into a 146 engine years back and they buried the engine on site once the NTSB and whatever investigation had been concluded.
J4CKO said:
Does look like it was a suicide, suprised passengers can get that close to an engine running fast enough to do that but guess they are there and people can be pretty single minded.
Expect they just bury the engine, was told by an ex BAE Hatfield engineer mate that someone was sucked into a 146 engine years back and they buried the engine on site once the NTSB and whatever investigation had been concluded.
I used to live in Welwyn Garden City and I can remember this happening, I'll spare you all the gory details.Expect they just bury the engine, was told by an ex BAE Hatfield engineer mate that someone was sucked into a 146 engine years back and they buried the engine on site once the NTSB and whatever investigation had been concluded.
I used to work with someone that worked at BAE Hatfield when it happened, they pulled blokes in on a nightshift paying them cash off the books to fabricate the engine guards so they could 'prove' all the safety procedures were in place whilst also blaming the victim for wearing the 'wrong' overalls
Tango13 said:
J4CKO said:
Does look like it was a suicide, suprised passengers can get that close to an engine running fast enough to do that but guess they are there and people can be pretty single minded.
Expect they just bury the engine, was told by an ex BAE Hatfield engineer mate that someone was sucked into a 146 engine years back and they buried the engine on site once the NTSB and whatever investigation had been concluded.
I used to live in Welwyn Garden City and I can remember this happening, I'll spare you all the gory details.Expect they just bury the engine, was told by an ex BAE Hatfield engineer mate that someone was sucked into a 146 engine years back and they buried the engine on site once the NTSB and whatever investigation had been concluded.
I used to work with someone that worked at BAE Hatfield when it happened, they pulled blokes in on a nightshift paying them cash off the books to fabricate the engine guards so they could 'prove' all the safety procedures were in place whilst also blaming the victim for wearing the 'wrong' overalls
I have a blade from a CFM engine that had a disagreement with a large sea bird, it is pretty mangled, apparently that had a roast chicken aroma, can sort of laugh that off but not a person, even the bird must have been a bit gory.
Edition87 said:
I do recall seeing a very OLD video, of someone being sucked into a harrier(?) engine on the deck of an aircraft carrier from a few feet away. I dread to think of the aftermath.
It was an A6 Intruder. 
The deck crew man who was sucked in actually survived!!!
Interesting article about it, there is a link to the video of the incident in that article, not sure if its NSFW but it does require clicking on from the article, not for the squeamish.
https://www.military.com/history/sailor-survived-g...
The Marechaussee (Dutch Military Police responsible for protecting borders, ports, airports etc) have said that after an investigation, the person was a ramp employee from one of the providers at Schiphol and that they climbed into the engine just as the aircraft was starting to taxi to the runway and have confirmed it was suicide. Out of respect for the victim and their family, and the witnesses and family - they will not give any further details.
As others have said - not something I would want to see, and awful for the passengers, crew and all other staff at the time.
As others have said - not something I would want to see, and awful for the passengers, crew and all other staff at the time.
It's quite impressive https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eV7YkWIqM0w
GliderRider said:
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hstewie said:
hstewie said: I was also quite surprised when I read how much suction even an idling engine can have as they don't tend to look like they're doing too much.
One of the few occasions that the air movement in front of a turbofan can be seen is when a C-17 is reversing.TRs are not deployed. Doors are not open.
The engine is unlikely to be at idle though.
Edit: It's also a strange picture.
The APU is on the wrong side of the aircraft.
The main wheels appear to be missing.
The No1 Engine appears quite high.
The Ac serial number (911) appears to be mirrored, but the crew door is in the correct place, or it would be if it wasnt the emergency escape door from the right hand side...
Edited by Fat Fairy on Saturday 1st June 00:50
Edited by Fat Fairy on Saturday 1st June 01:31
J4CKO said:
Tango13 said:
J4CKO said:
Does look like it was a suicide, suprised passengers can get that close to an engine running fast enough to do that but guess they are there and people can be pretty single minded.
Expect they just bury the engine, was told by an ex BAE Hatfield engineer mate that someone was sucked into a 146 engine years back and they buried the engine on site once the NTSB and whatever investigation had been concluded.
I used to live in Welwyn Garden City and I can remember this happening, I'll spare you all the gory details.Expect they just bury the engine, was told by an ex BAE Hatfield engineer mate that someone was sucked into a 146 engine years back and they buried the engine on site once the NTSB and whatever investigation had been concluded.
I used to work with someone that worked at BAE Hatfield when it happened, they pulled blokes in on a nightshift paying them cash off the books to fabricate the engine guards so they could 'prove' all the safety procedures were in place whilst also blaming the victim for wearing the 'wrong' overalls
I have a blade from a CFM engine that had a disagreement with a large sea bird, it is pretty mangled, apparently that had a roast chicken aroma, can sort of laugh that off but not a person, even the bird must have been a bit gory.
I remember discussions about the Flocking Duck test.
Apparently they have automated the ability to fire dead chickens into test engines. Although previously people have f
ked up by not defrosting them.first. I didn't get to see the Risk Assessment for clean up and inspection afterwards, but there's quite a biological hazard. All that raw meat.....
Pit Pony said:
J4CKO said:
Tango13 said:
J4CKO said:
Does look like it was a suicide, suprised passengers can get that close to an engine running fast enough to do that but guess they are there and people can be pretty single minded.
Expect they just bury the engine, was told by an ex BAE Hatfield engineer mate that someone was sucked into a 146 engine years back and they buried the engine on site once the NTSB and whatever investigation had been concluded.
I used to live in Welwyn Garden City and I can remember this happening, I'll spare you all the gory details.Expect they just bury the engine, was told by an ex BAE Hatfield engineer mate that someone was sucked into a 146 engine years back and they buried the engine on site once the NTSB and whatever investigation had been concluded.
I used to work with someone that worked at BAE Hatfield when it happened, they pulled blokes in on a nightshift paying them cash off the books to fabricate the engine guards so they could 'prove' all the safety procedures were in place whilst also blaming the victim for wearing the 'wrong' overalls
I have a blade from a CFM engine that had a disagreement with a large sea bird, it is pretty mangled, apparently that had a roast chicken aroma, can sort of laugh that off but not a person, even the bird must have been a bit gory.
I remember discussions about the Flocking Duck test.
Apparently they have automated the ability to fire dead chickens into test engines. Although previously people have f
ked up by not defrosting them.first. I didn't get to see the Risk Assessment for clean up and inspection afterwards, but there's quite a biological hazard. All that raw meat.....
Fat Fairy said:
Lots of things wrong with picture
Fat Fairy, well spotted. I'll need to take more care choosing photos off the net in future. 
Having watched a few C-17 videos, it seems that this effect can occur on any of the engines. AS the C-17 is one of the few turbofans that reverses the hot exhaust part of the efflux (and therefore water-laden) air I wonder if this is a contributing factor to the amount of water condensing out as the inlet vortex pressure drops? There doesn't seem much information around to explain why it is largely a C-17 phenomenon.
This video from Oshkosh shows how it is often momentary: C-17 inlet vortices
With regard to chicken gun stories, the one from BAe Filton concerned how the chicken was loaded into the gun before lunch, ready to be fired in the afternoon.
When the gun went off, the chicken's impact on the windscreen was preceded a millisecond or so earlier by that of a cat.
Edited by GliderRider on Saturday 1st June 08:54
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