British cargo ship sinks in North Sea
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This one seems to have slipped under the MSM radar with what is happening in the Middle East
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1827302/verit...
Collision with another vessel
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1827302/verit...
Collision with another vessel
Mark-ri571 said:
Interesting video:
https://youtu.be/VoBPVvLVthQ?si=Bc3UGcYpUS5jsCv1
I asked this on that You Tube channel but will ask here too.https://youtu.be/VoBPVvLVthQ?si=Bc3UGcYpUS5jsCv1
BBC said that there was a hope the missing sailors were stuck in an air bubble on the ship, has this ervger happend and how would they go abour rescuing them if they were?
Oliver Hardy said:
Mark-ri571 said:
Interesting video:
https://youtu.be/VoBPVvLVthQ?si=Bc3UGcYpUS5jsCv1
I asked this on that You Tube channel but will ask here too.https://youtu.be/VoBPVvLVthQ?si=Bc3UGcYpUS5jsCv1
BBC said that there was a hope the missing sailors were stuck in an air bubble on the ship, has this ervger happend and how would they go abour rescuing them if they were?
Oliver Hardy said:
I asked this on that You Tube channel but will ask here too.
BBC said that there was a hope the missing sailors were stuck in an air bubble on the ship, has this ervger happend and how would they go abour rescuing them if they were?
Incredibly difficult to rescue. In this instance smashing hammers against the hull are your only hope of alerting your rescuers.BBC said that there was a hope the missing sailors were stuck in an air bubble on the ship, has this ervger happend and how would they go abour rescuing them if they were?
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/16-days-...
Evanivitch said:
Oliver Hardy said:
I asked this on that You Tube channel but will ask here too.
BBC said that there was a hope the missing sailors were stuck in an air bubble on the ship, has this ervger happend and how would they go abour rescuing them if they were?
Incredibly difficult to rescue. In this instance smashing hammers against the hull are your only hope of alerting your rescuers.BBC said that there was a hope the missing sailors were stuck in an air bubble on the ship, has this ervger happend and how would they go abour rescuing them if they were?
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/16-days-...
Holes were cut in the keel.
However that was moored at the side of a fjord, not in the middle of the N Sea
https://www.vesselfinder.com/news/27089-Video-reco...
You see the Verity’s AIS track freezes then jumps.
I wonder if there was a comms issue.
If the watch keeper on the Polsie was relying on AIS targets on ECDIS instead of RADAR then he may have been unaware of the Verity until she jumped.
It’s why you don’t use ECDIS for collision avoidance, only navigation.
Reminds me of the Andrea Doria & Stockholm.
You see the Verity’s AIS track freezes then jumps.
I wonder if there was a comms issue.
If the watch keeper on the Polsie was relying on AIS targets on ECDIS instead of RADAR then he may have been unaware of the Verity until she jumped.
It’s why you don’t use ECDIS for collision avoidance, only navigation.
Reminds me of the Andrea Doria & Stockholm.
Edited by Stick Legs on Thursday 26th October 11:35
Oliver Hardy said:
BBC said that there was a hope the missing sailors were stuck in an air bubble on the ship
They actually called it an airlock, such is the scientific rigour of their reporting.Looking at the track it sank quickly; I guess the missing sailors were in bed. Polsie tracked back on a figure-8 but Verity was gone by then.
Out of curiosity I dug out the chart.
It turns out the Polesie was following the TSS (traffic route) and didn’t specifically alter to Port.
A rumour is circulating that the Polesie called on VHF Ch16. It is possible in that area that there is requirement to listen to multiple VHF channels, it us plausible that the Verity’s OOW did not have VHF Ch16 on as the need to listen to multiple channels can be a struggle with only 2 or 3 sets on the bridge.
Even with a Dual Watch function it’s plausible to miss a call.
Most likely scenario to me is that the Verity altered correctly to stbd to pass astern of the Polesie, the Polesie altered to port to follow the track, this left the Verity having to alter further to stbd.
The Polesie having altered to maintain her track within the TSS then alters further to port to resolve the situation with Verity.
The Polesie’s last minute alteration to stbd seals their fate. Verity at the last also appears to go to o port.
It turns out the Polesie was following the TSS (traffic route) and didn’t specifically alter to Port.
A rumour is circulating that the Polesie called on VHF Ch16. It is possible in that area that there is requirement to listen to multiple VHF channels, it us plausible that the Verity’s OOW did not have VHF Ch16 on as the need to listen to multiple channels can be a struggle with only 2 or 3 sets on the bridge.
Even with a Dual Watch function it’s plausible to miss a call.
Most likely scenario to me is that the Verity altered correctly to stbd to pass astern of the Polesie, the Polesie altered to port to follow the track, this left the Verity having to alter further to stbd.
The Polesie having altered to maintain her track within the TSS then alters further to port to resolve the situation with Verity.
The Polesie’s last minute alteration to stbd seals their fate. Verity at the last also appears to go to o port.
808 Estate said:
Oliver Hardy said:
BBC said that there was a hope the missing sailors were stuck in an air bubble on the ship, has this erver happend and how would they go about rescuing them if they were?
Watch "The Poseiden Adventure" for clues. 
It’s wrong to hold any hope.
808 Estate said:
Oliver Hardy said:
BBC said that there was a hope the missing sailors were stuck in an air bubble on the ship, has this erver happend and how would they go about rescuing them if they were?
Watch "The Poseiden Adventure" for clues. https://youtu.be/um1ym9u8XaA?feature=shared
dudleybloke said:
They found this guy after 3 days.
https://youtu.be/um1ym9u8XaA?feature=shared
A nice postscript here: https://tinyurl.com/55rubve8https://youtu.be/um1ym9u8XaA?feature=shared
Stick Legs said:
808 Estate said:
Oliver Hardy said:
BBC said that there was a hope the missing sailors were stuck in an air bubble on the ship, has this erver happend and how would they go about rescuing them if they were?
Watch "The Poseiden Adventure" for clues. It’s wrong to hold any hope.
There are reports that divers have been down, so the wreck is not at ridiculous depth, but commercial divers often work at depths well beyond the 100m mark, so it could be beyond the depth somebody could breath without a lean O2 mix. At 60m, the partial pressure of oxygen is going to be at the point where it becomes toxic.
Okene survived three days, so we are on the same timing, however, that was in May, off the coast of Nigeria, where the water would be warmer. If any of the crew had been trapped in an air pocket, sadly I expect the cold will have got them by now.
5 In a Row said:
Evanivitch said:
Oliver Hardy said:
I asked this on that You Tube channel but will ask here too.
BBC said that there was a hope the missing sailors were stuck in an air bubble on the ship, has this ervger happend and how would they go abour rescuing them if they were?
Incredibly difficult to rescue. In this instance smashing hammers against the hull are your only hope of alerting your rescuers.BBC said that there was a hope the missing sailors were stuck in an air bubble on the ship, has this ervger happend and how would they go abour rescuing them if they were?
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/16-days-...
Holes were cut in the keel.
However that was moored at the side of a fjord, not in the middle of the N Sea
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