What does £180,000,000 buy?

[TorqueVR]

The Scottish ferry fiasco is evidently going to cost about £180,000,000/ship and they are about 5 years late.

So what sort of warship, ferry or super-yacht would that buy and how long would it take to build?

[LaterLosers]

Depends where it was built.

China would produce some mega aircraft carrier with a hidden nuclear sub launcher underneath.

We would manage something the size of a canoe ten years behind schedule and doesn’t work properly.

[LimaDelta]

A £180M yacht will depend a lot on interior fit and finish, but if you have modest tastes you could be looking at something around the 80m mark new, or closer to 100m if buying used (depending on age). Waiting lists are long for a build slot for a decent yard, but actual build times less than 3 years usually.

The cruise ships we used to build in the early 00s were over 100,000grt, 300m in length 3000 pax and around £300M IIRC, so a bit more than that ferry. Around 3 years production time from keel laying to launch

[u-boat]

As it’s boats planes and trains - 180 million £ will get a Boeing 787 but you can haggle and get them far cheaper than list.

[Petrus1983]

$10m gets you a sensible 350 pax and 58 car cat -

https://www.apolloduck.co.uk/boat/commercial-vesse...

$150m gets you a 2,450 pax cruise liner - but could double up as a migrant hotel too - so a double win -

https://www.yachtworld.co.uk/yacht/2002-cruise-shi...

Edited by Petrus1983 on Wednesday 25th October 09:18

[thewarlock]

LaterLosers said:

Depends where it was built.

China would produce some mega aircraft carrier with a hidden nuclear sub launcher underneath.

We would manage something the size of a canoe ten years behind schedule and doesn’t work properly.

The RN batch 2 River class OPVs were around £200m each if I recall correctly.

[Earthdweller]

£180m would buy you two and a bit Stena Eflexer’s £360m would get you almost five of them

[Simpo Two]

LaterLosers said:

Depends where it was built.

China would produce some mega aircraft carrier with a hidden nuclear sub launcher underneath.

We would manage something the size of a canoe ten years behind schedule and doesn’t work properly.

True, but (1) we wouldn't accept Chinese working practices (2) China may have as many failures as us but its people don't broadcast it on the net.

[PushedDover]

There is still talk / efforts for BP to leverage the use of the Ferguson shipyard to build some offshore wind vessels.

Last time we looked, the cost escalation was in excess of 55%


And two years longer in delivery


(Ie totally untunable

[Dimebars]

TorqueVR said:

The Scottish ferry fiasco is evidently going to cost about £180,000,000/ship and they are about 5 years late.

So what sort of warship, ferry or super-yacht would that buy and how long would it take to build?

More notably, not one head has rolled

Scottish taxpayers being fleeced by a government of gravy-bus riding charlatans

[Otispunkmeyer]

Petrus1983 said:

$10m gets you a sensible 350 pax and 58 car cat -

https://www.apolloduck.co.uk/boat/commercial-vesse...

$150m gets you a 2,450 pax cruise liner - but could double up as a migrant hotel too - so a double win -

https://www.yachtworld.co.uk/yacht/2002-cruise-shi...

Edited by Petrus1983 on Wednesday 25th October 09:18

For some reason I was surprised to see an ex-Celebrity cruise liner to be so cheap! but I guess its a 20+ year old ship and there'll be plenty of farts sequestered into the dining room chairs.

[HocusPocus]

Half a mile of HS2.