TUI 737 Runway excursion LBA

TUI 737 Runway excursion LBA

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Trevatanus

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11,211 posts

157 months

Friday 20th October 2023
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Leeds Bradford currently closed due Tui 737 leaving the Runway

MonkeyBusiness

4,025 posts

194 months

Friday 20th October 2023
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There has been some scary landings, some aborts, and lots of go arounds all day at LBA.

The aircraft cleaners are going to be busy. Its a bit muddy.

magpie215

4,585 posts

196 months

Friday 20th October 2023
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Not great.

There is so much work now required by engineering on that aircraft.

Muddle238

4,009 posts

120 months

Friday 20th October 2023
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Bugger.

Trevatanus

Original Poster:

11,211 posts

157 months

Friday 20th October 2023
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magpie215 said:
Not great.

There is so much work now required by engineering on that aircraft.
11 years old. End of the road maybe?

gotoPzero

18,149 posts

196 months

Friday 20th October 2023
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Trevatanus said:
magpie215 said:
Not great.

There is so much work now required by engineering on that aircraft.
11 years old. End of the road maybe?
The biggest issue will be the mud thats been ingested into the engines requiring a serious look at the engines.
Think it will be out of action for a few months but should fly again as I cant see anything too serious.


robbieduncan

1,987 posts

243 months

Friday 20th October 2023
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How long will it take to move it do you think. Very selfishly interested as I’m fly out of of LBA on Monday

gotoPzero

18,149 posts

196 months

Friday 20th October 2023
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If you look at the approach they were doing a heck of a lot including 2 orbits on the airport.
It was their first attempt too.

ADSB data shows them at 141kts over the threshold. (touch fast maybe?)
94kts with 2/3 of the runway used. (floated?)
Departed the runway at c.60kts just beyond the turn off (maybe tried to make the taxi at too high of a speed?)
c.350m of paved surface remaining when they came to a stop on the grass.


48k

13,951 posts

155 months

Friday 20th October 2023
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robbieduncan said:
How long will it take to move it do you think. Very selfishly interested as I’m fly out of of LBA on Monday
No idea, but it can't be a fun job in this weather. They will need to unload it and probably get some air bags under it assuming the landing gear is intact so that it can be pulled out.

Simpo Two

87,026 posts

272 months

Friday 20th October 2023
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gotoPzero said:
c.350m of paved surface remaining when they came to a stop on the grass.
So they steered off the side rather than ran off the end?

Trevatanus

Original Poster:

11,211 posts

157 months

Friday 20th October 2023
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48k said:
robbieduncan said:
How long will it take to move it do you think. Very selfishly interested as I’m fly out of of LBA on Monday
No idea, but it can't be a fun job in this weather. They will need to unload it and probably get some air bags under it assuming the landing gear is intact so that it can be pulled out.
Nah just get Petroni on the case.

48k

13,951 posts

155 months

Saturday 21st October 2023
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Simpo Two said:
gotoPzero said:
c.350m of paved surface remaining when they came to a stop on the grass.
So they steered off the side rather than ran off the end?
Non-based crew so unfamiliar with the airfield, possibly thought they were running out of runway so using the grass to slow down? Certainly possible, assuming they had control authority and it wasn't the conditions dictating where they ended up.

Alex Z

1,506 posts

83 months

Saturday 21st October 2023
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As is always the way, there’s more informed discussion here.
https://www.pprune.org/accidents-close-calls/65539...

MonkeyBusiness

4,025 posts

194 months

Saturday 21st October 2023
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Digging it out this morning.

gotoPzero

18,149 posts

196 months

Saturday 21st October 2023
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Simpo Two said:
gotoPzero said:
c.350m of paved surface remaining when they came to a stop on the grass.
So they steered off the side rather than ran off the end?
Obviously anything could have happened but just due to their position it does look like they were trying to make the taxiway, didnt make it due to speed or understeered on the wet surface (maybe a combo of both).

Delta taxiway is not a high speed exit. Echo at the other end is, afaik. Possible after the 2 orbits the pilot lost his bearings and thought they were landing on 32 rather than 14? Thought no problem we are a bit hot but will slow down on the taxiway and then found a 130 degree turn ahead?

IANAP!

48k

13,951 posts

155 months

Saturday 21st October 2023
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robbieduncan said:
How long will it take to move it do you think. Very selfishly interested as I’m fly out of of LBA on Monday
Airport expected to re-open at 11am today (Saturday).

ferret50

1,567 posts

16 months

Saturday 21st October 2023
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Bet the landscape gardener is well pissed off!

biggrin

LivLL

11,126 posts

204 months

Saturday 21st October 2023
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48k said:
robbieduncan said:
How long will it take to move it do you think. Very selfishly interested as I’m fly out of of LBA on Monday
Airport expected to re-open at 11am today (Saturday).
It has re-opened as of 1130.

Cotty

40,280 posts

291 months

Saturday 21st October 2023
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How do they get it out? Surely if its sunk into the mud, just dragging/pulling it isn't going to work

48k

13,951 posts

155 months

Saturday 21st October 2023
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Cotty said:
How do they get it out? Surely if its sunk into the mud, just dragging/pulling it isn't going to work
Assuming the gear is intact then cranes/airbags will get the weight off as much as possible and then they can pull it.