China catches own sub in snare net*, crew suffocate

[ChemicalChaos]

• Allegedly.... nothing to see here, according to totally truthful goverment office in Beijing

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12589429/...

Some interesting questions though...
- How does a modern submarine with sonar not see a giant chain net under the sea, even if you weren't expecting it to be there?
- How does running out of air magically get "repaired" some time later to let some crew survive?
- Once caught in a net, surely it can't be as easy as just reversing out of it or they'd be useless.... so how does one escape?

[dudleybloke]

Tofu dreg navy.

[youngsyr]

A tragedy for those involved, can't help but feel that in the wider picture it's a case of play stupid games,...

The detail in the intelligence report on it is impressive though, included everything bar what the crew had for breakfast (and I wouldn't be surpised if they knew that too).

[MesoForm]

ChemicalChaos said:

* Allegedly.... nothing to see here, according to totally truthful goverment office in Beijing

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12589429/...

Some interesting questions though...
- How does a modern submarine with sonar not see a giant chain net under the sea, even if you weren't expecting it to be there?
- How does running out of air magically get "repaired" some time later to let some crew survive?
- Once caught in a net, surely it can't be as easy as just reversing out of it or they'd be useless.... so how does one escape?

Sonar bit - they only listen for stuff as if they sent sound out to see what is outside then other submarines, etc. will be able to hear where they are.

I can't add anything else, it all seems a very odd incident.

[Simpo Two]

''We have kit which absorbs co2 and generates oxygen in such a situation. It is probable that other nations do not have this kind of tech.'

Apollo 13 could do it.

Why didn't the sub call for help?

Then again, it may all be made up. 'According to a secret UK report'... you may want to rethink that...!

[Countdown]

The article says the Sub was a “nuke” and then refers to “batteries running out “. That doesn’t make sense to me. Also wouldn’t a Chinese sub KNOW where the Chinese sub traps were???

[CrutyRammers]

There was gossip going around some of the OSINT channels about this some months back when it was supposed to have happened, it still makes little sense though. A nuclear submarine that runs out of air in a few days?

[littlebasher]

On the other hand, they did prove their nets work

For their own subs anyway.....

[youngsyr]

Well, they name the submarine and the Captain and claim that both are at the bottom of the sea, so should be pretty easy to verify?

[Countdown]

According to Wiki the Type 093 is a nuclear attack submarine (not a diesel-electric) so the comment about batteries running out is baffling.

[CrutyRammers]

Countdown said:

According to Wiki the Type 093 is a nuclear attack submarine (not a diesel-electric) so the comment about batteries running out is baffling.

"Daily Mail"

[No ideas for a name]

youngsyr said:

Well, they name the submarine and the Captain and claim that both are at the bottom of the sea, so should be pretty easy to verify?

Report implies it came back up after 6 hours... but that was too late for 55 of the crew.
Daily Mail report so who knows.

[Mabbs9]

Does a nuke sub not also have batteries for any time the reactor is offline? I don't mean to continue normal ops but as a gap fill?

[Evanivitch]

Countdown said:

According to Wiki the Type 093 is a nuclear attack submarine (not a diesel-electric) so the comment about batteries running out is baffling.

Nuclear submarines are still mostly electrically driven. The reactor would likely power batteries for the onboard systems, even if not for propulsion, to improve power conditioning.

Why they didn't have oxygen candles on board is very odd.

[Countdown]

Evanivitch said:

Countdown said:

According to Wiki the Type 093 is a nuclear attack submarine (not a diesel-electric) so the comment about batteries running out is baffling.

Nuclear submarines are still mostly electrically driven. The reactor would likely power batteries for the onboard systems, even if not for propulsion, to improve power conditioning.

Why they didn't have oxygen candles on board is very odd.

But how would the batteries "run out"? The nuclear powerplant would still be generating, providing electric current.......

[Evanivitch]

Countdown said:

But how would the batteries "run out"? The nuclear powerplant would still be generating, providing electric current.......

Depends if there's an issue with charging and charge management. Clearly there was a failure that could be fixed, the question is why it was such a catastrophic failure for the crew.