Huge Airbus order from Indigo

[Trevatanus]

Just read that Airbus has received an order from Indigo for 500 A320's, someone at Airbus will be enjoying a nice commission cheque this month

I imagine Boeing will have something up their sleeve to announce too though.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/travel/news/airbus-secur...

[AlexIT]

Trevatanus said:

I imagine Boeing will have something up their sleeve to announce too though.

Boeing: Ryanair placed an order for 300 737MAX 10

Airbus: Hold my beer.........

[2xChevrons]

So that one order, from one airline, for one type of aircraft exceeds the production total of any single type of British airliner made between 1945 and the end of BAe146 production in 2003.

Unless you count either the Islander or the BAe125 and its predecessors.

The closest were the Vickers Viscount (444 built) and the original 'short-body' version of the Jetstream (HP/SA/BAe) with 429 built.

At least it will keep Broughton busy making wings for a good while.

[Simpo Two]

2xChevrons said:

So that one order, from one airline, for one type of aircraft exceeds the production total of any single type of British airliner made between 1945 and the end of BAe146 production in 2003.

That's almost unbelievable; I've never even heard of Indigo.

How will that work going forwards as the green movement make everybody feel so guilty about flying they stay at home?

[untakenname]

The guilt only applies to western developed countries, emerging economy's don't yet care about green virtue signalling .

[Simpo Two]

untakenname said:

The guilt only applies to western developed countries, emerging economy's don't yet care about green virtue signalling .

Absolutely, and is why they have a competitive advantage they are slowly beating us with.

[Trevatanus]

untakenname said:

The guilt only applies to western developed countries, emerging economy's don't yet care about green virtue signalling .

Just been reading on pollution,
Granted India is not a country which views pollution in the way that say, the UK does, but, given the huge size of India, is it actually more environmentally sensible to fly, given the fact the journey is substantially quicker, ie: less time in the air.. less time travelling, less pollution?

[sherman]

Simpo Two said:

2xChevrons said:

So that one order, from one airline, for one type of aircraft exceeds the production total of any single type of British airliner made between 1945 and the end of BAe146 production in 2003.

That's almost unbelievable; I've never even heard of Indigo.

How will that work going forwards as the green movement make everybody feel so guilty about flying they stay at home?

Holidays this year

Did Jamaica in March
Driving to Cornwall in September (from Edinburgh)
New York in November
Been stuck on this island for the last few years. Making up for it this year.

[Simpo Two]

sherman said:

Did Jamaica in March
Driving to Cornwall in September (from Edinburgh)
New York in November
Been stuck on this island for the last few years. Making up for it this year.

I haven't flown anywhere since 2015, so I bought a 6.0 V12 to help make amends.

What I'd really like to be able to do is sell my unused carbon allowance to some dumbass ecoist... we shall call them 'polar bear vouchers' - you buy 100 vouchers for £100 each, you save a bear

[sherman]

My wife who is an Ecologist has been flying back and forth to shetland at least once a month for the past 3 years. As a household we are killing more polar bears than we are saving.
I planted 2 trees in the back garden this year to help

[djc206]

Simpo Two said:

That's almost unbelievable; I've never even heard of Indigo.

How will that work going forwards as the green movement make everybody feel so guilty about flying they stay at home?

The carbon footprint of the average Indian pales into insignificance compared to the average Brit, that’s probably how. I’m doing my bit by not breeding, I’ll continue to travel as I see fit on that basis.

As to the order, great news for Airbus.

[Blib]

On the basis that I haven't bred anyone new for over two decades, I too shall continue to fly all over the place.

[2xChevrons]

djc206 said:

The carbon footprint of the average Indian pales into insignificance compared to the average Brit, that’s probably how. I’m doing my bit by not breeding, I’ll continue to travel as I see fit on that basis.

As to the order, great news for Airbus.

Thank you. I've been weighing up whether to make that point and continue the derail. Now the door has been opened:

India may be the world's third largest CO2 emitter, but per capita they are well behind the West. The stat is 1.91 tons/capita for India compared to 15.52t/c for the USA and 5.5t/c for the UK (and 7.38t/c for China, by the way). And that's just emissions within a country's borders. Think how much of those emissions from India (and especially China) are effectively 'outsourced' from the West.

Doesn't give India or China completely free reign to let-'er-rip and turn the sky black (with coal fumes or Airbus A320) but a bit less of the false martyrdom tone wouldn't go amiss.

[djc206]

2xChevrons said:

Thank you. I've been weighing up whether to make that point and continue the derail. Now the door has been opened:

India may be the world's third largest CO2 emitter, but per capita they are well behind the West. The stat is 1.91 tons/capita for India compared to 15.52t/c for the USA and 5.5t/c for the UK (and 7.38t/c for China, by the way). And that's just emissions within a country's borders. Think how much of those emissions from India (and especially China) are effectively 'outsourced' from the West.

Doesn't give India or China completely free reign to let-'er-rip and turn the sky black (with coal fumes or Airbus A320) but a bit less of the false martyrdom tone wouldn't go amiss.

Yep, and they’re buying new highly efficient aircraft not using other peoples hand me downs. If they’re going to fly they’re going the right way about it. I don’t see that we can deny other developing nations the same luxuries we have enjoyed and pretend that it’s for the benefit of the environment when as you rightly point out we’re a hell of a lot worse than they are even when we’re not flying!

[coanda]

Airbus has a back order of about 7000 aircraft at the moment comprised mostly of single aisle (A320 family) aircraft along with some A350s and A330s. It wants the ability to deliver around 1000 airframes per year and last year it delivered around 620 with the shortfall attributed to supplier shortages.

I wouldn't be surprised if the scale of this order will later be linked to the opening of a final assembly line (FAL) for these aircraft in India with similar restrictions to the Chinese FAL, for now.

No new Airbus designs until there is a significant (>15% imo) fuel saving guaranteed imo.

Edited by coanda on Thursday 22 June 21:21

[Terminator X]

untakenname said:

The guilt only applies to western developed countries, emerging economy's don't yet care about green virtue signalling .

Don't worry when we are all driving electric cars the planet will be safe.

TX.

[Teddy Lop]

AlexIT said:

Boeing: Ryanair placed an order for 300 737MAX 10

Airbus: Hold my beer.........

The Ryanair we flew on earlier this year was badged 737-8200, no maxs I could see, I assumed they'd dropped the name!

[Starfighter]

Boeing did drop Max from the 737 range.

[LotusOmega375D]

Simpo Two said:

That's almost unbelievable; I've never even heard of Indigo.

I have been taking annual business trips to India for the past 15 years. I visit several major cities each time. I have never travelled on an Indian train. Pretty much all of my travel between these cities is by domestic air travel. It has been fascinating to see how that industry has developed over that period. So many airlines have appeared and then disappeared, either due to failure or acquisition. Even some big companies with international flights such as Jet and Kingfisher.

Whereas you used to see probably 10 different domestic carriers at any large Indian airport at any time, now you pretty much just see Indigo. They have 62% market share. The rest is primarily Air India and it’s subsidiaries and partners. Whereas their competitors have floundered, Indigo has gone from strength to strength.