Nepal Air Crash

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Scotty2

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1,322 posts

273 months

Monday 16th January 2023
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Not seen another thread on this.
From the video, it looks to me like a stall? Wrong flap setting too little power?
Sadly no survivors.

TIGA84

5,294 posts

238 months

Monday 16th January 2023
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There are 2 other videos that have since come to light.

One is a pretty harrowing Facebook livestream of a passenger actually onboard when its going in.

The second is a wide shot from the other side of the approach, RH engine/prop catches fire, plane banks sharply left after a few seconds and, well you know the rest.

Viewer discretion advised if you choose to seek them out - particularly the first one.

Lotobear

7,107 posts

135 months

Monday 16th January 2023
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Awful news. My wife is half Nepali and I recall flying into the old Pokhara airport on a twin otter years ago - it was a hairy experience as is any flying in Nepal.

It is known what happened yet - engine failure or pilot error?

essayer

9,605 posts

201 months

Monday 16th January 2023
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That livestream is absolutely grim. Don’t watch it. frown

Simpo Two

87,026 posts

272 months

Monday 16th January 2023
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essayer said:
That livestream is absolutely grim. Don’t watch it. frown
If it's the one I found, it wasn't a big deal. There's no blood, gore or injured or dead people. You see far worse in TV dramas.

Lotobear said:
It is known what happened yet - engine failure or pilot error?
Lunchtime news said the pilot had just asked to land on a different runway. Which is odd at that height.

stevensdrs

3,227 posts

207 months

Monday 16th January 2023
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essayer said:
That livestream is absolutely grim. Don’t watch it. frown
It is grim, I wish I hadn't bothered, the screaming is quite disturbing.

zsdom

1,128 posts

127 months

Monday 16th January 2023
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TIGA84 said:
There are 2 other videos that have since come to light.

One is a pretty harrowing Facebook livestream of a passenger actually onboard when its going in.

The second is a wide shot from the other side of the approach, RH engine/prop catches fire, plane banks sharply left after a few seconds and, well you know the rest.

Viewer discretion advised if you choose to seek them out - particularly the first one.
The wide angle clip is actually the crash of an Il-112 from a few years ago

Piginapoke

5,040 posts

192 months

Monday 16th January 2023
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Scotty2 said:
Not seen another thread on this.
From the video, it looks to me like a stall? Wrong flap setting too little power?
Sadly no survivors.
Good early analysis here (an excellent channel btw) https://youtu.be/OnuVPUsz9VE

dhutch

15,236 posts

204 months

Monday 16th January 2023
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Simpo Two said:
If it's the one I found, it wasn't a big deal. There's no blood, gore or injured or dead people. You see far worse in TV dramas.
Only difference is, you know they aren't real.

Simpo Two

87,026 posts

272 months

Monday 16th January 2023
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dhutch said:
nly difference is, you know they aren't real.
And yet we - well most people it seems, not me - eagerly lap up reality TV programmes featuring sick, injured and dying people. I find those far worse because they're deliberate. Broadcast on national TV, hooray. But post a link to a crash and it will be removed due to 'offence'. It makes no sense to me.

Sorry, back to the topic.

peterperkins

3,208 posts

249 months

Monday 16th January 2023
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TIGA84 said:
There are 2 other videos that have since come to light.

One is a pretty harrowing Facebook livestream of a passenger actually onboard when its going in.
It was inevitable with the proliferation of phones and cameras that eventually some poor sod onboard would capture their own and many others fiery demise in an air crash.

I watched it with the sound off and looks to be all over in half a second, so at least not a lot of time suffering. RIP all onboard.





Frik

13,554 posts

250 months

Monday 16th January 2023
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Lotobear said:
Awful news. My wife is half Nepali and I recall flying into the old Pokhara airport on a twin otter years ago - it was a hairy experience as is any flying in Nepal.

It is known what happened yet - engine failure or pilot error?
It's a beautiful part of a beautiful country.

When I did Kathmandu to Pokhara our flight was swapped out for a bus ride. It's a tedious journey because the road is one long processional of lorries taking an age to climb up out of Kathmandu valley.

Even then I was happier to do the bus journey though. This is just one more incident that highlights quite how dangerous flying in Nepal is frown

stevemcs

8,986 posts

100 months

Monday 16th January 2023
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I don’t think either of the videos are genuine, av herald has them both as fakes.

6th Gear

3,567 posts

201 months

Tuesday 17th January 2023
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The video unfortunately is real.


Siko

2,034 posts

249 months

Tuesday 17th January 2023
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Horrible. Looks possibly like an aerodynamic stall to me - high angle of bank at a low airspeed. Reported today the CVR has been found in good condition so i guess we'll hear soon enough. Also reported that the co-pilot who died lost her husband (he was also a pilot) in another aircraft crash 16 years before, apparently she used the insurance money to fund her flight training. Very sad indeed, RIP.

Simpo Two

87,026 posts

272 months

Tuesday 17th January 2023
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6th Gear said:
The video unfortunately is real.
Unless we know what each of is seeing, we can't know/compare. The ending of the one I found looked rather fake. If it is, it's a damn shame that people have to falsify something tragic to make it more dramatic.

6th Gear

3,567 posts

201 months

dirty boy

14,745 posts

216 months

Thursday 19th January 2023
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Saw the video, I have some peace in that it appears the screams were from the sharp banking of the aircraft and that hopefully, everyone died or at the very least were 'out' on impact before the fire started.

Sad stuff.

Master Bean

4,001 posts

127 months

Saturday 18th February 2023
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Video here.

https://youtu.be/rXTy24rdwYc

TL:DR

Pilot feathers props instead of selecting flaps 30. No power. Stall.

Simpo Two

87,026 posts

272 months

Saturday 18th February 2023
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Master Bean said:
Video here.

https://youtu.be/rXTy24rdwYc

TL:DR

Pilot feathers props instead of selecting flaps 30. No power. Stall.
The two controls next to each other and operating in the same way. An accident waiting to happen.