Beneteau Flyer
Discussion
Anyone got one / any experience of one (build quality / reliability / seakeeping etc etc).
Looking at a 2015 850 Flyer sundeck with twin Suzi 200s. seems to pack an awful lot into something not much bigger than my RIB..!!
Coming from a Revenger 715 Rib, missus wants something with more entertaining space on the back/sunbathing on the front and the ability to overnight whilst I still want something sporty and good for waterskiing etc.
Looking at a 2015 850 Flyer sundeck with twin Suzi 200s. seems to pack an awful lot into something not much bigger than my RIB..!!
Coming from a Revenger 715 Rib, missus wants something with more entertaining space on the back/sunbathing on the front and the ability to overnight whilst I still want something sporty and good for waterskiing etc.
I've got a Jeanneau Cap Camarat 8.5 CC, which is going to be very similar.
Build quality is ok, your revenger will be better quality. They are built to a relatively low price point so its never going to be high quality.
Reliability - ours is 2012, which we bought in 2015. Not a single issue with it since purchase. (But is only used 3 months a year)
Sea keeping - quite simply its poor. Its a lightweight boat that gets knocked around in moderate chop. Its great when its flat calm, but the minute you are in 15 knots wind or more, its going to be a lumpy ride.
We've got a pair of 225Hp's on the back, and we get 40+ knots, so its good fun to drive, and plenty of power for towing.
Build quality is ok, your revenger will be better quality. They are built to a relatively low price point so its never going to be high quality.
Reliability - ours is 2012, which we bought in 2015. Not a single issue with it since purchase. (But is only used 3 months a year)
Sea keeping - quite simply its poor. Its a lightweight boat that gets knocked around in moderate chop. Its great when its flat calm, but the minute you are in 15 knots wind or more, its going to be a lumpy ride.
We've got a pair of 225Hp's on the back, and we get 40+ knots, so its good fun to drive, and plenty of power for towing.
We have a Cap Camarat 7.5 and I for me it is probably on the limit of you want for waterskiing size wise, albeit you can still ski behind the bigger boats the wake gets harder to cross and it gets a bit expensive fuel wise. You still get a toilet and a bed for two. I think the 8.5 will be much more roomy inside though. I also found the planing speed on mine a bit high for basic waterskiing or wakeboarding, fine for mono skiing but then you have the big wake to contend with. I fitted zip wakes which brought the planing speed down a bit and also produces a nice clean wake at that lower speed (rather than a messy/ foamy wake) which is great for wakeboarding.
My 7.5 handles ok in the rough unless you start stuffing into into waves when you can't quite get on top of them and into the wind at which point you get a good soaking! It's not a rib though but overall much more practical for passengers on most days we tend to go out. I think the 8.5/ 9 meter versions are wider so have less deadrise and as such might slam a bit more, but probably benefit from a bit more length where mine is a bit short.
They are quite high sided boats though which means spending time on the deck (for us at least) is only really any good if it is flat calm. Otherwise even the most minor rocking can get annoying and you tend to head to the beach or nearest marina instead especially if you have people more prone to being sea sick on board.
My 7.5 handles ok in the rough unless you start stuffing into into waves when you can't quite get on top of them and into the wind at which point you get a good soaking! It's not a rib though but overall much more practical for passengers on most days we tend to go out. I think the 8.5/ 9 meter versions are wider so have less deadrise and as such might slam a bit more, but probably benefit from a bit more length where mine is a bit short.
They are quite high sided boats though which means spending time on the deck (for us at least) is only really any good if it is flat calm. Otherwise even the most minor rocking can get annoying and you tend to head to the beach or nearest marina instead especially if you have people more prone to being sea sick on board.
Very interesting gents thank you.
Yep that rings true with someone who mentioned to me that it can be quite a 'wet' boat in lumpy seas.
We tend to be very fair weather sailors though, headout somewhere to a visitors pontoon for a meal / drinks or maybe anchor up near a beach and sunbathe / picnic so I think it will probably tick 9 out of 10 boxes.
Really want a Cap Cam 9.25 WA!! Can't quite stretch ... or even the 10 .... or .. or .... :-)
Any idea on values? This has done 83 hours since new in the hands of one owner, been out of the water every year for engine service / new antifoul etc. I'm having a survey done next week but looks to be in very (almost new) condition above waterline from what I can see so far. I have agreed a deal in principle at circa £52K.
Yep that rings true with someone who mentioned to me that it can be quite a 'wet' boat in lumpy seas.
We tend to be very fair weather sailors though, headout somewhere to a visitors pontoon for a meal / drinks or maybe anchor up near a beach and sunbathe / picnic so I think it will probably tick 9 out of 10 boxes.
Really want a Cap Cam 9.25 WA!! Can't quite stretch ... or even the 10 .... or .. or .... :-)
Any idea on values? This has done 83 hours since new in the hands of one owner, been out of the water every year for engine service / new antifoul etc. I'm having a survey done next week but looks to be in very (almost new) condition above waterline from what I can see so far. I have agreed a deal in principle at circa £52K.
240Cup said:
Very interesting gents thank you.
Yep that rings true with someone who mentioned to me that it can be quite a 'wet' boat in lumpy seas.
We tend to be very fair weather sailors though, headout somewhere to a visitors pontoon for a meal / drinks or maybe anchor up near a beach and sunbathe / picnic so I think it will probably tick 9 out of 10 boxes.
Really want a Cap Cam 9.25 WA!! Can't quite stretch ... or even the 10 .... or .. or .... :-)
Any idea on values? This has done 83 hours since new in the hands of one owner, been out of the water every year for engine service / new antifoul etc. I'm having a survey done next week but looks to be in very (almost new) condition above waterline from what I can see so far. I have agreed a deal in principle at circa £52K.
That price is fair for the current market. Yep that rings true with someone who mentioned to me that it can be quite a 'wet' boat in lumpy seas.
We tend to be very fair weather sailors though, headout somewhere to a visitors pontoon for a meal / drinks or maybe anchor up near a beach and sunbathe / picnic so I think it will probably tick 9 out of 10 boxes.
Really want a Cap Cam 9.25 WA!! Can't quite stretch ... or even the 10 .... or .. or .... :-)
Any idea on values? This has done 83 hours since new in the hands of one owner, been out of the water every year for engine service / new antifoul etc. I'm having a survey done next week but looks to be in very (almost new) condition above waterline from what I can see so far. I have agreed a deal in principle at circa £52K.
Make sure you have the engine checked out by a manufacturer approved engineer. Not many surveyors will give you any useful info on the engine.
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