UK F35 pilot eject - QE
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Good job we had 3 more delivered the other week......
As said, that 100m+ down the swanny.
And this is the problem with these mega expensive mega tech toys that you are not buying many of them...........and that take years to make...........
As someone famously said, "quantity is a quality all its own"
I suppose they are going to have to try and recover the remains, so as certain other countries don't go sniffing around the sea bed trying to do the same thing so as to be able to reverse engineer or counter its systems.
As said, that 100m+ down the swanny.
And this is the problem with these mega expensive mega tech toys that you are not buying many of them...........and that take years to make...........
As someone famously said, "quantity is a quality all its own"
I suppose they are going to have to try and recover the remains, so as certain other countries don't go sniffing around the sea bed trying to do the same thing so as to be able to reverse engineer or counter its systems.
JeremyH5 said:
take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey said:
Hope it's not career ending. Doesn't do your back much good.
Don’t the modern ejection seats have a staged acceleration mode to limit the G force on the pilot on the way up? No longer one bang and you’re at maximum acceleration.https://martin-baker.com/about/ejection-seat-faq/
And - https://martin-baker.com/pilots-maintainers/pilots...
Glad the pilot is ok.
Edited by Petrus1983 on Wednesday 17th November 15:34
JeremyH5 said:
take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey said:
Hope it's not career ending. Doesn't do your back much good.
Don’t the modern ejection seats have a staged acceleration mode to limit the G force on the pilot on the way up? No longer one bang and you’re at maximum acceleration.You're still accelerating a 10 stone jockey away from the airframe pretty sharpish. Even if the a curve is 'smoothed' you'll still pull a lot of g.
aeropilot said:
Good job we had 3 more delivered the other week......
As said, that 100m+ down the swanny.
And this is the problem with these mega expensive mega tech toys that you are not buying many of them...........and that take years to make...........
As someone famously said, "quantity is a quality all its own"
I suppose they are going to have to try and recover the remains, so as certain other countries don't go sniffing around the sea bed trying to do the same thing so as to be able to reverse engineer or counter its systems.
Yeah when i was at Farnborough Airshow I learned that from the order to first flight a Eurofighter took three years to build...As said, that 100m+ down the swanny.
And this is the problem with these mega expensive mega tech toys that you are not buying many of them...........and that take years to make...........
As someone famously said, "quantity is a quality all its own"
I suppose they are going to have to try and recover the remains, so as certain other countries don't go sniffing around the sea bed trying to do the same thing so as to be able to reverse engineer or counter its systems.
If the Battle of Britain was re-run today with modern jets the replacement aircraft would have been be reaching squadrons in 1943.
Smollet said:
It would appear the F35 is on the way out.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2021/02/23/t...
Not at all, simply that another LWF program could augment the F-35s capabilities. It was never meant to replace every aircraft in the inventory.https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2021/02/23/t...
Pretty much every military aircraft developed has had teething issues and been slated by the mostly ill-informed MSM. JSF is no different in that regard.
aeropilot said:
And this is the problem with these mega expensive mega tech toys that you are not buying many of them...........and that take years to make...........
There is a theory that ever since the first generation of fighter aircraft, the DoD budget has fallen year-on-year, and the unit cost for frontline fighters has increased, and if the trend continues by 2100 or thereabouts the USAF will consist of one single, admittedly very capable, aircraft. 
aeropilot said:
Good job we had 3 more delivered the other week......
As said, that 100m+ down the swanny.
And this is the problem with these mega expensive mega tech toys that you are not buying many of them...........and that take years to make...........
As someone famously said, "quantity is a quality all its own"
I suppose they are going to have to try and recover the remains, so as certain other countries don't go sniffing around the sea bed trying to do the same thing so as to be able to reverse engineer or counter its systems.
So do we need the very best of the best, in very limited numbers?As said, that 100m+ down the swanny.
And this is the problem with these mega expensive mega tech toys that you are not buying many of them...........and that take years to make...........
As someone famously said, "quantity is a quality all its own"
I suppose they are going to have to try and recover the remains, so as certain other countries don't go sniffing around the sea bed trying to do the same thing so as to be able to reverse engineer or counter its systems.
Perhaps we could buy a load more planes, of slightly lesser costs.
Yeah, I get expensive normally means best.
Is the tech on these F35's as good, to warrant a kill rate as a lesser squadron of planes?
When does simply "X" number of lesser quality combat planes, become just too much for a single F35 ?
Perhaps a single F35 could be brought down by say 10 slightly inferior fighter planes ?
Smollet said:
It would appear the F35 is on the way out.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2021/02/23/t...
If that plan sounds familiar, it’s because the Air Force a generation ago launched development of an affordable, lightweight fighter to replace hundreds of Cold War-vintage F-16s and complement a small future fleet of sophisticated—but costly and unreliable—stealth fighters.https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2021/02/23/t...
But over 20 years of R&D, that lightweight replacement fighter got heavier and more expensive as the Air Force and lead contractor Lockheed Martin LMT +0.5% packed it with more and more new technology.
Yes, we’re talking about the F-35. The 25-ton stealth warplane has become the very problem it was supposed to solve. And now America needs a new fighter to solve that F-35 problem, officials said.
And this was pointed to them over 10 years ago......but La La La, not listening was the response.
If the USAF A order gets culled by 50% as it has been banded about it might be........that will have a huge impact on the prices for the B's and C's, although the USN have never been that keen on the C model at all, and if they pull the plus on the C model, then it will make the USMC order for the B seriously expensive, and likewise UK, Italians and anyone else silly enough to order the B.
LimaDelta said:
Smollet said:
It would appear the F35 is on the way out.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2021/02/23/t...
Not at all, simply that another LWF program could augment the F-35s capabilities. It was never meant to replace every aircraft in the inventory.https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2021/02/23/t...
That was the whole point of it......originally.
aeropilot said:
LimaDelta said:
Smollet said:
It would appear the F35 is on the way out.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2021/02/23/t...
Not at all, simply that another LWF program could augment the F-35s capabilities. It was never meant to replace every aircraft in the inventory.https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2021/02/23/t...
That was the whole point of it......originally.
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