New Upright Airline seat......
New Upright Airline seat......
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poo at Paul's

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14,594 posts

204 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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https://www.msn.com/en-gb/lifestyle/travel/new-upr...


Can I be the first to say, fxxk that!!

CAPP0

20,836 posts

232 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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Agree, but I have also long thought that all seats in econ should not be able to recline - I thougth that was that this was going to be about.

Yell_M3

389 posts

229 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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Yip. The more we can stuff into cattle class, the cheaper business will be.

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

129 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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or, the more they can upsell you a premium or business seat because of how badly you dont want to be in Economy?

Europa1

10,923 posts

217 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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And the mockup is in Ryanair colours...who'd have thought?!

JuniorD

9,013 posts

252 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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here's the first gen Skyrider seat (2014) in action



That would be a no from me

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

129 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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Also not suitable for many disabled travellers - although to be fair, aircraft in their current format are hardly the first word in being friendly towards disabled travellers

steve-5snwi

10,271 posts

122 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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Jet 2 is already shocking when it comes to legroom and seat comfort, if they become the norm then thats me done with flying, i'd pay extra and go ba business class short hall but there is no more room there. Ryanair are about the best for legroom for me.

Orchid1

906 posts

137 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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Bleak

ATG

23,671 posts

301 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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As seen in churches for the last 800 years: the misericord.

mko9

2,986 posts

241 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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I have seen this story about every six months for the past two years. While on the one hand it would allow airlines to really pack them in, I can't imagine it would be feasible for anything more than a 30min-1hr hop. It would also raise huge issues. A seat is a seat, must people can sit in it (if they fit in it). How do you make this thing work for small children? Disabled? Fat? Tall? Etc? Without even considering outliers, your run of the mill adult could be anywhere from 5' 0" (or less) to easily 6' 6"+. It would have to be massively adjustable to accomodate all passengers, wouldn't it? And it is pretty hard to stand up on a plane, outside of the aisles, because of the luggage bins. What do you do with all that storage capacity?

Edited by mko9 on Thursday 19th April 18:56

NickCQ

5,392 posts

125 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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CAPP0 said:
Agree, but I have also long thought that all seats in econ should not be able to recline - I thougth that was that this was going to be about.
That's been the case on the budget carriers for some time now, makes perfect sense in my opinion.

The best short-haul flying experience is BA economy in the exit row with priority boarding & lounge access. If you are lucky and there are lots of Club passengers on your plane, you can get the exit row seat (9/10 IIRC) and still be in Club, if you can't wait to get to the terminal to have a drink.

CAPP0

20,836 posts

232 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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NickCQ said:
CAPP0 said:
Agree, but I have also long thought that all seats in econ should not be able to recline - I thougth that was that this was going to be about.
That's been the case on the budget carriers for some time now, makes perfect sense in my opinion.

The best short-haul flying experience is BA economy in the exit row with priority boarding & lounge access. If you are lucky and there are lots of Club passengers on your plane, you can get the exit row seat (9/10 IIRC) and still be in Club, if you can't wait to get to the terminal to have a drink.
Agree, have used that option probably hundreds of times now, although they have ramped up the prices for exit row seats in econ now - sometimes +£28 each way.

Simpo Two

92,658 posts

294 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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mko9 said:
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Well they could charge by height and weight, and/or have seats for Tall bds. Short bds, Fat bds and so on.

ATEOTD nobody makes anybody fly on an aeroplane and if you want to go to Australia for £1 you can expect discomfort...!

Cold

16,638 posts

119 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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I wonder if they could carry more passengers if they installed bunk beds instead of seats.

Starfighter

5,339 posts

207 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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Increasing the seat density with those throughout would create issues for certification. There is a limit to the numbers on board and this is governed by the evacuation times.

jkh112

23,930 posts

187 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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steve-5snwi said:
Jet 2 is already shocking when it comes to legroom and seat comfort, if they become the norm then thats me done with flying, ...
That is strange as I found the opposite. Flew Jet 2 a couple of years ago and saw they had hard backed seats which were surprisingly comfortable and gave decent leg room as the seats frames were so thin. As it was a short haul flight the lack of reclining was a positive.

Krikkit

27,935 posts

210 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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jkh112 said:
steve-5snwi said:
Jet 2 is already shocking when it comes to legroom and seat comfort, if they become the norm then thats me done with flying, ...
That is strange as I found the opposite. Flew Jet 2 a couple of years ago and saw they had hard backed seats which were surprisingly comfortable and gave decent leg room as the seats frames were so thin. As it was a short haul flight the lack of reclining was a positive.
Flew on a nearly-new Ryanair with fixed-back seats in October, again thought the same - I never recline, even on a long-haul, so it wasn't an issue.

As noted above I don't think the semi-standing seats will gain much traction as they're not really good for anyone except an adult between 5'4" and 6'2"... It also means you'd have to take out the overhead lockers.

JuniorD

9,013 posts

252 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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ATG said:
As seen in churches for the last 800 years: the misericord.
A new word in my lexicon thumbup

Dog Star

17,539 posts

197 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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It's a bit like congestion charging. They're going on and on and on about it happening outside of London. It's not proving acceptable, but it'll come as they keep chipping away.

I view these seats the same way. It'll happen.

Looks horrific. Air travel, unless you're prepared to pony up for business class (certainly not something I am prepared to pay my hard earned money for - so I just won't fly) flying is just an awful, uncomfortable and degrading experience.