737 down in Russia.. 44 dead.

[onyx39]

A Boeing 737 belonging to a domestic Russian airline crashed Sunday while attempting to land at an airport in western Tatarstan, killing all 50 people on board, Russia's emergency situations ministry said.

"According to preliminary information, all the people on board the flight, 44 passengers and six crew members, were killed,'' a ministry spokeswoman told AFP.

"There were no children among the passengers,'' she added.

The local branch of the ministry said in an earlier statement that 44 people had died when the jet, arriving from Moscow's Domodedovo airport, crashed on landing in the city of Kazan at 7:25 pm (1525 GMT).

The Tatarstan Airlines plane "hit the runway and burst into flames", Russia's Investigative Committee said in a statement.

The news agency ITAR-TASS said the plane then "exploded'', quoting a local police source.

Local news agencies reported the plane had tried to land three times before crashing.

"According to preliminary information all 50 bodies of the victims were found at the scene of the crash,'' said an official at the local emergency medical centre.


http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/world/tatarstan-a...

Edited by onyx39 on Sunday 17th November 18:25

[Mojocvh]

"Local news agencies reported the plane had tried to land three times before crashing."

[B17NNS]

Says something like:
"I was a passenger of the flight on the very same plane 4 hours before, from Kazan to Moscow. Don't let those fool you that it was weather related or a pilot mistake, the airplane was broken, we almost crashed on landing at moscow."

From pprune.

[KTF]

I'd like to see how SLF thinks they 'almost crashed' on landing but I guess the media doesn't care too much about checking that out.

Pprune is just beginning to get interested in it considering the news of the accident appeared on the wires just after 1600: http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/527997-russian-...

[onyx39]

KTF said:

I'd like to see how SLF thinks they 'almost crashed' on landing but I guess the media doesn't care too much about checking that out.

Pprune is just beginning to get interested in it considering the news of the accident appeared on the wires just after 1600: http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/527997-russian-...

I wonder if "almost crashed" is the same as a "go-around", which apparently they did twice before finally putting it in the ground.

[dvs_dave]

Video on that pprune thread of the crash looks it's in a dive straight into the ground.

[onyx39]

dvs_dave said:

Video on that pprune thread of the crash looks it's in a dive straight into the ground.

that video is of the Bagram 747 freighter crash


this is it: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b12_1384773205

Edited by onyx39 on Monday 18th November 13:44

[oobster]

Still looks like the plane hit the ground almost vertically though.

[Munter]

oobster said:

Still looks like the plane hit the ground almost vertically though.

Before watching the video when I read that I thought people meant it stalled and belly flopped hard. The video appears to be nose in, tail up. I guess the flight recorders will reveal all.

[dvs_dave]

onyx39 said:

that video is of the Bagram 747 freighter crash


this is it: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b12_1384773205

That's the vid that's linked to and what I was talking about. Not sure where you got the bagram link from?

Anyway, as I said, it looks like a nosedive into the ground

[B17NNS]

dvs_dave said:

Anyway, as I said, it looks like a nosedive into the ground

Weird. I'd have thought a failed go around would be more of a tail strike

[onyx39]

B17NNS said:

dvs_dave said:

Anyway, as I said, it looks like a nosedive into the ground

Weird. I'd have thought a failed go around would be more of a tail strike

My thoughts exactly. Do we know where the vid was shot from, if it was from the airport, it was a very odd angle of attack.

[Eric Mc]

Failed attempt to land - followed by a go around - pilot climbs too steeply - aircraft stalls - nosedives into ground.

[B17NNS]

Eric Mc said:

Failed attempt to land - followed by a go around - pilot climbs too steeply - aircraft stalls - nosedives into ground.

Makes sense.

[Mojocvh]

Eric Mc said:

Failed attempt to land - followed by a go around - pilot climbs too steeply - aircraft stalls - nosedives into ground.

Or a dropped wing (pick your cause) with it rolling vertical....

If you want to you can see the fin lights on in that horrible video.

RIP

[Eric Mc]

I wonder were they experiencing some sort of instrument failure - like a misreading air speed indicator or artificial horizon?

[Mojocvh]

The CVR that wasn't a CVR

[MitchT]

Mojocvh said:

The CVR that wasn't a CVR

I've seen the notes on Aviation Herald about the CVR, but what isn't clear is whether it separated form its casing as a result of the impact or, maybe, there was no CVR there to begin with.

[B17NNS]

Russian CVR



Probably commandeered by flight crew for entertainment purposes.

[onyx39]

No idea on the source of this.