Flying Scotsman Wheel Slip Damage Photos?
Flying Scotsman Wheel Slip Damage Photos?
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Monster26

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284 posts

254 months

Wednesday 3rd July 2013
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Random youtube surf this evening ended up with me finding a video taken from the back of the train when the wheel slip took place in 1994.

This led me trying in vain to find photos of the damage and I have found zip. Does anyone have any or know the location of some?

Thanks,
M

pedromorgan

148 posts

207 months

Thursday 4th July 2013
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Are you sure the vid was of the scotsman and not 60532 Blue Peter?

Peter

Monster26

Original Poster:

284 posts

254 months

Thursday 4th July 2013
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lol thanks.....that will be the problem......wrong loco!

Don't drink and surf/post!


Monster26

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284 posts

254 months

Thursday 4th July 2013
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/standardtankrichard/3...

best I have found.... looking for the right loco!

c7xlg

928 posts

261 months

Friday 5th July 2013
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That is a very bent big lump of metal! Was the damage cause by wheels spinning up and then suddenly gripping again?

Monster26

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284 posts

254 months

Friday 5th July 2013
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Spinning up to destruction.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E54HUQYeFNg

Still can't find photos.... (can anyone change the title of this thread so I don't look a fool!)

Simpo Two

92,670 posts

294 months

Friday 5th July 2013
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Jeepers. But slipping wheels must be commonplace - why was this one different? The wheel moving on the axle?

pedromorgan

148 posts

207 months

Friday 5th July 2013
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There was a rather scary picture on the front of Steam Railway magazine at the time.

The problem was the sheer speed of the spin. I think the Speedo finally seized up at 120mph or something crazy like that.

I also think that one of the bigger problems with the repair was that the wheel had turned on the axle during the slip. Knocking the wheels out of quarter.

The rods are a particularly difficult item to remake as the dimensions are so critical. To the point where one set of rods would be matched to the frames and wheels and those 3 bits would follow each other around for the life of the loco. everything else can be swapped during overhaul to get the loco out of the works quicker (for example tender and boilers were swapped around)
Rod replacements were actually a pretty rare event.

Peter

pedromorgan

148 posts

207 months

Friday 5th July 2013
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Sorry jeepers I didnt see your question.

Yes slipping wheels are commonplace. but normally the steamchest only holds enough steam to spin them for a few moments before it exhausts the volume of steam downstream of the regulator.
The balancing act when starting a loco with a heavy train is to get the pressure of the steamchest as gigh as you can without spinning the wheels.

This was less of the problem on North Eastern loco's as they tended to be fitted with front end regulators.

The problem in this case was that the regulator jammed during the spin meaning they couldnt stop it. and a wheel turned on the axle causing the mess.

At least thats how I understand it. This is a foum so undoubtably someone knows better...

Peter