HMS Dauntless off to the Falklands
Discussion
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16810417
Is it going to happen all over again?
I doubt it with this beast lurking around in the South Atlantic, i would imagine it will have a sub or two lurking around with it too.
phumy said:
Not unless they are incredibly stupid... despite the cuts, I am sure it is a damned sight better defended than it was 30 years ago!Another report from the Telegraph -
Dauntless will set sail for the Falkland Islands in the coming weeks armed with a battery of missiles that could "take out all of South America's fighter aircraft let alone Argentina's," according to one Navy source.
The Type 45 destroyer is the most advanced anti-aircraft and anti-ballistic ship in the world equipped with 48 Sea Viper missiles and the Sampson radar, which is more advanced than Heathrow air traffic control
The ship is in a league of its own in air defence able to track dozens of multiple targets
"It can shoot down Argentine fighters as soon as they take off from they bases," said another Navy source. "This will give Buenos Aires serious pause for thought."
The deployment, expected in late March, comes as Argentina has stepped up its sabre rattling over possession of the islands with a ban on all Falkland registered ships in South American ports.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/onthefr...
Dauntless will set sail for the Falkland Islands in the coming weeks armed with a battery of missiles that could "take out all of South America's fighter aircraft let alone Argentina's," according to one Navy source.
The Type 45 destroyer is the most advanced anti-aircraft and anti-ballistic ship in the world equipped with 48 Sea Viper missiles and the Sampson radar, which is more advanced than Heathrow air traffic control
The ship is in a league of its own in air defence able to track dozens of multiple targets
"It can shoot down Argentine fighters as soon as they take off from they bases," said another Navy source. "This will give Buenos Aires serious pause for thought."
The deployment, expected in late March, comes as Argentina has stepped up its sabre rattling over possession of the islands with a ban on all Falkland registered ships in South American ports.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/onthefr...
Seight_Returns said:
Good to see that they seem to have sufficient confidence in the T45s to deploy them to operational theatres - with Daring in the Gulf as well.
Any public source info on how the PAAMS/Sampson integration is looking?
Apparently Dauntless herself has made a successful test engagement.Any public source info on how the PAAMS/Sampson integration is looking?
Although I don't think anyone has been willing to test the anti-missile ability of PAAMS, but it looks like they've added a couple of Phalanx to the Type 45
MonkeyBusiness said:
Another report from the Telegraph -
The Type 45 destroyer is the most advanced anti-aircraft and anti-ballistic ship in the world equipped with 48 Sea Viper missiles and the Sampson radar, which is more advanced than Heathrow air traffic control
Depending on one very hi-tech unproven ship... hmm.The Type 45 destroyer is the most advanced anti-aircraft and anti-ballistic ship in the world equipped with 48 Sea Viper missiles and the Sampson radar, which is more advanced than Heathrow air traffic control
Let's hope it works then.
MonkeyBusiness said:
Dauntless will set sail for the Falkland Islands in the coming weeks armed with a battery of missiles that could "take out all of South America's fighter aircraft let alone Argentina's," according to one Navy source.
Don't they Brazilians have anything handy? I thought they were on an economic upswing.Argentina was very much the South American problem child in 1982 - her neighbours were more than happy to see them get a kicking which resulted in the overthrow of a government that was causing them all problems.
Very different situation today - Argentina is politically and economically stable and enjoys increasingly close economic integration with her neighbours - the Mercosur trading block nations (Argentina, Brazil, Paraguay, and Uruguay) are all pretty much politically aligned behind Argentina's claim to Falkland's Sovereignty to the extend that as of the end of last year they closed their ports to Falkland Islands flagged ships (ie the Island's fishing fleet - providors of their staple income).
The ongoing challenge to FI sovereignty is unlikely to be a shooting war - economic isolation from their neighbours is going to be the problem
Very different situation today - Argentina is politically and economically stable and enjoys increasingly close economic integration with her neighbours - the Mercosur trading block nations (Argentina, Brazil, Paraguay, and Uruguay) are all pretty much politically aligned behind Argentina's claim to Falkland's Sovereignty to the extend that as of the end of last year they closed their ports to Falkland Islands flagged ships (ie the Island's fishing fleet - providors of their staple income).
The ongoing challenge to FI sovereignty is unlikely to be a shooting war - economic isolation from their neighbours is going to be the problem
Seight_Returns said:
Argentina was very much the South American problem child in 1982 - her neighbours were more than happy to see them get a kicking which resulted in the overthrow of a government that was causing them all problems.
Very different situation today - Argentina is politically and economically stable and enjoys increasingly close economic integration with her neighbours - the Mercosur trading block nations (Argentina, Brazil, Paraguay, and Uruguay) are all pretty much politically aligned behind Argentina's claim to Falkland's Sovereignty to the extend that as of the end of last year they closed their ports to Falkland Islands flagged ships (ie the Island's fishing fleet - providors of their staple income).
The ongoing challenge to FI sovereignty is unlikely to be a shooting war - economic isolation from their neighbours is going to be the problem
Economically stable? Very different situation today - Argentina is politically and economically stable and enjoys increasingly close economic integration with her neighbours - the Mercosur trading block nations (Argentina, Brazil, Paraguay, and Uruguay) are all pretty much politically aligned behind Argentina's claim to Falkland's Sovereignty to the extend that as of the end of last year they closed their ports to Falkland Islands flagged ships (ie the Island's fishing fleet - providors of their staple income).
The ongoing challenge to FI sovereignty is unlikely to be a shooting war - economic isolation from their neighbours is going to be the problem
10% inflation by governement figures and over 25% by independent analysis among other problems.
As for the trading bloc they are supporting Argentina in words only as shown by Brazil (helping us with oil rigs) and Uruguay allowing a Royal Navy ship to dock there. In addition to that any of the Falkland ships are allowed to enter any of the trading blocs ports and trade using the British flag they are entitiled to fly, so no real effect in economic terms even if it is a symbolic gesture.
HMS Dauntless was also moored down at Docklands for the military trade fair last autumn. Looks quite futuristic. Almost a light cruiser.
Funny how history can repeat itself. I remember a senior Royal flying Sea Kings down in the Falklands 30 years ago.
Let's hope she has a lot more luck than her Type 42 Destroyer predecessors HMS Coventry and HMS Sheffield.
Funny how history can repeat itself. I remember a senior Royal flying Sea Kings down in the Falklands 30 years ago.
Let's hope she has a lot more luck than her Type 42 Destroyer predecessors HMS Coventry and HMS Sheffield.
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