Uk has invented a "cloaking" device!
Uk has invented a "cloaking" device!
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onyx39

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11,349 posts

179 months

Tuesday 27th December 2011
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Well sort of. We now have the ability to disguise our tanks as other objects. Still a long way from Star Trek, and still visible to the naked eye, but it's a start I guess!

http://www.baesystems.com/Newsroom/NewsReleases/au...

Simpo Two

92,658 posts

294 months

Tuesday 27th December 2011
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But we have nothing to hide...!

Munter

31,331 posts

270 months

Tuesday 27th December 2011
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That'll be dead handy against those IEDs...

davepoth

29,395 posts

228 months

Tuesday 27th December 2011
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Munter said:
That'll be dead handy against those IEDs...
Nah, it means the Taliban with night vision goggles won't be able to throw rocks at our tanks.

strikingtheiron4

25 posts

177 months

Tuesday 27th December 2011
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In Japan I think i read somewhere that they have already have a prototype of a cloaking suit. Much like in Harry Potter's invisibility cloak. It takes pictures from behind and puts up the images in the front side of the device. Also, have you watched the earlier installment of GI Joe, the have that suit in there.

magpie215

5,017 posts

218 months

Tuesday 27th December 2011
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just looks like a black tank....they would have been better of taking a picture without the tank there :-)

Simpo Two

92,658 posts

294 months

Tuesday 27th December 2011
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Monty Python had it worked out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zekiZYSVdeQ

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1,479 posts

216 months

Tuesday 27th December 2011
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Simpo Two said:
Monty Python had it worked out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zekiZYSVdeQ
I never realised there was a Mrs B.J smegma in that.

TheEnd

15,370 posts

217 months

dirkgently

2,160 posts

260 months

Tuesday 27th December 2011
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Simpo Two said:
But we have nothing to hide...!
See how good it is.

Simpo Two

92,658 posts

294 months

Tuesday 27th December 2011
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dirkgently said:
See how good it is.
Ooh, clever. Will you bluff the Russkies or shall I?

RizzoTheRat

28,774 posts

221 months

Tuesday 27th December 2011
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One of the trade mags had some pics (not sure if they were real or artists impression though) the other week of it pretending to be other vehicles. Good concept, but only any use againts thermal imagers presumably.

Oily Nails

2,932 posts

229 months

Tuesday 27th December 2011
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The thing I noticed was all the demos show only silhouette camouflage (from the side/front) of the vehicle, which isn't much use against aerial attackers, who look down on the target vehicle, such as UCAVs which they make a point of showing in the film.

I also wondered exactly how useful it would be in naval applications as camouflaging a destroyer as a day cruiser is going to be hard seen with thermal imagers since there would be a F-off great big wake behind it, which would be odd.

Very clever technology all the same though smile

paulrussell

2,306 posts

190 months

Wednesday 28th December 2011
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There was a picture of a tank with a cloaking device on in a newspaper a while ago. You could still see that there's a tank there, plus it was still leaving a dust trail.

ShayneJ

1,073 posts

208 months

Thursday 29th December 2011
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I imagine the system will be of use in fooling radar/ir guided missile systems.
not so convinced in its use against a guy with a shoulder or vehicle launched
wire guided device or abdul with an rpg or as has been pointed out up the page
all the tech you can muster is no use if you roll over an ied or a pukka mine.

Unless we are thinking of having a large scale war china/us for example
has the "tank" kinda had its day armour is cool for posturing but field tank battles
are so WW2?

Simpo Two

92,658 posts

294 months

Thursday 29th December 2011
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ShayneJ said:
Unless we are thinking of having a large scale war china/us for example
has the "tank" kinda had its day armour is cool for posturing but field tank battles
are so WW2?
Interesting point - maybe tank vs tank battles are now past, in the same way that battleship vs battleship contests are past, and are more mobile artillery/infantry support.

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 29th December 2011
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strikingtheiron4 said:
Also, have you watched the earlier installment of GI Joe, the have that suit in there.
...so it must be true.

MarkK

667 posts

308 months

Friday 30th December 2011
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ShayneJ said:
I imagine the system will be of use in fooling radar/ir guided missile systems.
not so convinced in its use against a guy with a shoulder or vehicle launched
wire guided device or abdul with an rpg or as has been pointed out up the page
all the tech you can muster is no use if you roll over an ied or a pukka mine.

Unless we are thinking of having a large scale war china/us for example
has the "tank" kinda had its day armour is cool for posturing but field tank battles
are so WW2?
I don't believe it's an attempt to spoof IR missiles or anything like that. It's as simple as just trying to blend into it's surroundings so it get disregarded - much like any other kind of camouflage. As you say, the days of tanks being deployed out in the open battling other tanks are probably over (at least for a while). This technology will be of more use in an urban environment - think Iraq / Afghanistan, night time, lots of normal vehicle activity and you want to position your APC / tank/ etc and try and make it blend in by looking like a pickup truck for example. I can see that it may be advantageous in that kind of situation.

Ultimately it doesn't "cloak" the vehicle as such but I think a lot of technologies such as these are just buying time, or gaining every little advantage they can.