Red Arrows to re-equip with Typhoon?
Red Arrows to re-equip with Typhoon?
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onyx39

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11,349 posts

179 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2011
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Apparently the Hawk production is to be stopped in the next few years with the Typhoon to be used as a possible replacement?

THIS I would like to see !

I know it's only journalists talking about it, but they clearly got the idea from somewhere!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-15819469

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2011
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I very much doubt it.

The new generation Hawk is just entering service with the RAF. If the Red Arrows re-equip it will be with these.

Simpo Two

92,658 posts

294 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2011
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It would be nice but knowing we are somewhat brassic and that every Typhoon costs a gazillion pounds and is needed in some sandy country to force regime change, I expect it will be prop-driven trainers. Tucanos?

dr_gn

16,924 posts

213 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2011
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Tucano more like.

Diamond 4 sound good?

Mr_B

10,480 posts

272 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2011
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If you had the Reds equiped with Typhoons, what percentage of Typhoons in service with the RAF would that represent ?

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2011
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The Tucanos are almost as old as the first generation Hawks.

PintOfKittens

1,336 posts

219 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2011
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Mr_B said:
If you had the Reds equiped with Typhoons, what percentage of Typhoons in service with the RAF would that represent ?
Probably about 150%

badgers_back

513 posts

215 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2011
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Typhoons 60 K per hour in the air for maintenance costs, times that by the amount needed and then by the hours they need to fly

Oh and the RAF is broke

Simpo Two

92,658 posts

294 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2011
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I think we are agreed gentlemen.

The 2012 Red Arrows, sorry Arrow, will fly Diamond One formation:


PaulG40

2,381 posts

254 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2011
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Complete bull! Why do journalists keep on reporting such garbage? Typhoons?! Please!rolleyes

Not to mention the midday BBC news on bbc1 that couldn't even get the reds incident facts correct!

The Hawk T1 is still good til 2018, and the next generation Hawk is more likely a candidate as Eric says.

Edited by PaulG40 on Tuesday 22 November 19:08

davepoth

29,395 posts

228 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2011
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I'm pretty sure the hawk is the cheapest fast jet the RAF have, they won't go for anything pricier.

dr_gn

16,924 posts

213 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2011
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PaulG40 said:
Complete bull! Why do journalists keep on reporting such garbage?

Not to mention the midday BBC news on bbc1 that couldn't even get the reds incident facts correct!
What's "Complete Bull" about it?

King Herald

23,501 posts

245 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2011
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Simpo Two said:
I think we are agreed gentlemen.

The 2012 Red Arrows, sorry Arrow, will fly Diamond One formation:

Judging by the financial position of this country that might not be a bad idea.

I have no idea how much it costs to run the Red Arrows, but it must be eating at Harry and Williams inheritance something rotten.

PaulG40

2,381 posts

254 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2011
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dr_gn said:
What's "Complete Bull" about it?
I re-edited my above post as in my haste neglected to add the typhoon reference.

NismoGT

1,634 posts

219 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2011
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How would the Typhoon cope as a close formation jet?


Ian Lancs

1,158 posts

195 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2011
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It's an excellent and well researched story. Apparently T1 production is about to end - pretty sure the last T1 left the production line quite a few years ago (maybe even while it was still at Dunsfold?)

Pothole

34,367 posts

311 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2011
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Ian Lancs said:
It's an excellent and well researched story.
in that case it's unique on the BBC website!

Ian Lancs

1,158 posts

195 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2011
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Pothole said:
Ian Lancs said:
It's an excellent and well researched story.
in that case it's unique on the BBC website!
Think I might need to work harder on my sarcasm? ;op

eccles

14,366 posts

251 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2011
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Eric Mc said:
The Tucanos are almost as old as the first generation Hawks.
confused There's about 10 years difference, so not really contempories.

aeropilot

40,520 posts

256 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2011
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Journo's getting their arses and elbows mixed up as usual.....

Sparrows will see their 50th year in 2015.....after that though is anyones guess.

No way will they get Typhoons x 9 painted red........ only way Typhoons would likely happen is if post 2015, the Reds are disbanded and the RAF return to the pre-Reds era of rotation of front line Sqn duties as RAF display team......most likey just as a 4-ship Tiffie flight, rather a 9-ship Reds type formations.

Don't think the numbers of new Hawk that have been ordered will allow for equiping the Reds, so don't think a conversion to newer Hawk will be on the cards either.