Freemans can do sea
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Not mine I hasten to add, but just to show they can go to grey boring-but-bouncy dangerous places too 
Freeman 30 on the way to - er, not sure really!
http://www.youtube.com/embed/v3pmZLNcEEk

Freeman 30 on the way to - er, not sure really!
http://www.youtube.com/embed/v3pmZLNcEEk
Simpo Two said:
Not mine I hasten to add, but just to show they can go to grey boring-but-bouncy dangerous places too 
Freeman 30 on the way to - er, not sure really!
http://www.youtube.com/embed/v3pmZLNcEEk
Excellent stuff, I had mine out of the water once it was so rough! There was a gap in the wake....
Freeman 30 on the way to - er, not sure really!
http://www.youtube.com/embed/v3pmZLNcEEk
Yeah he's coming out to sea. Meet you at the Wash. 
Have to say though Jon that seems to be handling it a lot better than maybe some might expect. It's always hard to see the sea conditions from a video or photograph but I'd guess that is nastier out there than you might expect. Not too much roll and no slamming, the spray rails are effective and it obviously has the bow lift to stop getting one through the windscreen.
As for you Mr Huntsman, yours was born to be in the air.
Ride the white horses for your entertainment.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3pmZLNcEEk&fea...

Have to say though Jon that seems to be handling it a lot better than maybe some might expect. It's always hard to see the sea conditions from a video or photograph but I'd guess that is nastier out there than you might expect. Not too much roll and no slamming, the spray rails are effective and it obviously has the bow lift to stop getting one through the windscreen.
As for you Mr Huntsman, yours was born to be in the air.
Ride the white horses for your entertainment.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3pmZLNcEEk&fea...
Simpo Two said:
Not mine I hasten to add, but just to show they can go to grey boring-but-bouncy dangerous places too 
Freeman 30 on the way to - er, not sure really!
http://www.youtube.com/embed/v3pmZLNcEEk
Simpo, that isn't rough, you certainly are a freshwater man 
Freeman 30 on the way to - er, not sure really!
http://www.youtube.com/embed/v3pmZLNcEEk

m0ssy said:
Simpo Two said:
Not mine I hasten to add, but just to show they can go to grey boring-but-bouncy dangerous places too 
Freeman 30 on the way to - er, not sure really!
http://www.youtube.com/embed/v3pmZLNcEEk
Simpo, that isn't rough, you certainly are a freshwater man 
Freeman 30 on the way to - er, not sure really!
http://www.youtube.com/embed/v3pmZLNcEEk

. Call that rough? Rough is when the coffee mugs bounce off both sides of the cabin walls, hit you in the face then float away on the wave that's just flooded the cockpit in two feet of freezing water.
Very rough is when this happens for 8 hours non stop.

Luxury. I had to get up in the morning at ten o'clock at night half an hour before I went to bed, drink a cup of sulphuric acid, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill, and pay mill owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our Dad and our mother would kill us and dance about on our graves singing Hallelujah...
Jaguar steve said:
m0ssy said:
Simpo Two said:
Not mine I hasten to add, but just to show they can go to grey boring-but-bouncy dangerous places too 
Freeman 30 on the way to - er, not sure really!
http://www.youtube.com/embed/v3pmZLNcEEk
Simpo, that isn't rough, you certainly are a freshwater man 
Freeman 30 on the way to - er, not sure really!
http://www.youtube.com/embed/v3pmZLNcEEk

. Call that rough? Rough is when the coffee mugs bounce off both sides of the cabin walls, hit you in the face then float away on the wave that's just flooded the cockpit in two feet of freezing water.
Very rough is when this happens for 8 hours non stop.


I suppose if we are using Beaufort which technically is not a wind speed but an observed sea state used to assess the likely wind strength then the description would be:
Moderate waves of some length. Many whitecaps. Small amounts of spray, 6-9 ft wave height. Giving rise to an estimated wind speed of 18–24 mph or 'Fresh Breeze'
However that would be what's observed in open ocean not shoreline, channel etc.
Basically an argument that can't be won either way as Beaufort can't be used inshore in it's intended manner as the sea state isn't necessarily indicative of wind strength.
Moderate waves of some length. Many whitecaps. Small amounts of spray, 6-9 ft wave height. Giving rise to an estimated wind speed of 18–24 mph or 'Fresh Breeze'
However that would be what's observed in open ocean not shoreline, channel etc.
Basically an argument that can't be won either way as Beaufort can't be used inshore in it's intended manner as the sea state isn't necessarily indicative of wind strength.

We'll use the Simpo Scale then:
'5 - Decidedly lumpy'
This is calculated on the percentage of the G&T remaining in your glass after 60 seconds.
9 is when you can't find the glass
10 is when you find the glass but it's on the ceiling because you've capsized.
I experienced Simpo Force 1 yesterday ('crossing another boat's wash'). Vendee Globe here we come, oh yes.
'5 - Decidedly lumpy'
This is calculated on the percentage of the G&T remaining in your glass after 60 seconds.
9 is when you can't find the glass
10 is when you find the glass but it's on the ceiling because you've capsized.
I experienced Simpo Force 1 yesterday ('crossing another boat's wash'). Vendee Globe here we come, oh yes.
Simpo Two said:
We'll use the Simpo Scale then:
'5 - Decidedly lumpy'
This is calculated on the percentage of the G&T remaining in your glass after 60 seconds.
9 is when you can't find the glass
10 is when you find the glass but it's on the ceiling because you've capsized.
I experienced Simpo Force 1 yesterday ('crossing another boat's wash'). Vendee Globe here we come, oh yes.
b'5 - Decidedly lumpy'
This is calculated on the percentage of the G&T remaining in your glass after 60 seconds.
9 is when you can't find the glass
10 is when you find the glass but it's on the ceiling because you've capsized.
I experienced Simpo Force 1 yesterday ('crossing another boat's wash'). Vendee Globe here we come, oh yes.
d you just got me a slap after explaining to the wife she was a five under the new Simpo scale. And G&T left in your glass after 60 seconds has nothing to do with sea state more that you shouldn't pour it in pints.

MOTORVATOR said:
And G&T left in your glass after 60 seconds has nothing to do with sea state more that you shouldn't pour it in pints. 
Ah yes, the theory which I failed to explain is that you don't touch it during the 60 seconds!
m0ssy said:
Title EFA:
Freemans have been known to enter mild sea waters but simpo never will
You should be careful too; from the photos I've seen of your boat it could break up if a seagull lands on it Freemans have been known to enter mild sea waters but simpo never will


Only one hole on my roof!

Edited by Simpo Two on Thursday 14th July 10:09
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that looks a bit moist...