Mackerell Trolling in the Thames
Mackerell Trolling in the Thames
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m0ssy

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920 posts

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Friday 13th May 2011
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As above really.......

wondered if anyone had done it off their boat in the Thames, where I would need to go, good spots?

I have a couple of carp rods kicking around I could use but research suggests that the easiest way to catch and eat one of the tastiest fishes in our seas would be to use this:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Sea-Fishing-Trolling-Frame-P...

perhaps tie it to a cleat one port and one starboard and troll at 3 knots?

Sound about right?

Eric Mc

125,601 posts

294 months

Friday 13th May 2011
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Is a Mackerell Troll a fish that likes winding the other fish up?

nevgroom

2,183 posts

188 months

Friday 13th May 2011
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[quote=m0ssyhttp://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Sea-Fishing-Trolling-Frame-Paravane-Lure-50m-line-/140543621177?pt=UK_SportingGoods_FishingAcces_RL&hash=item20b90d7839

perhaps tie it to a cleat one port and one starboard and troll at 3 knots?

Sound about right?
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I would use a spinner but the line and set-up is perfect

Eric Mc

125,601 posts

294 months

Friday 13th May 2011
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Folks - the word is TRAWL.

This is a TRAWL -




This is a TROLL -


m0ssy

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Friday 13th May 2011
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nevgroom said:
I would use a spinner but the line and set-up is perfect
I guess the spinning option would be fine too if dropping anchor or bouying up for a bit.

Question is where abouts do these tasty chaps 'hang out' in the Estuary? How far in do they swim?

tontoro

3,516 posts

272 months

Friday 13th May 2011
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Eric Mc said:
Folks - the word is TRAWL.

This is a TRAWL -




This is a TROLL -

Obviously you're not a fisherman Eric

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolling_(fishing)

m0ssy

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Friday 13th May 2011
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Eric Mc said:
Folks - the word is TRAWL.
Shush Eric i am not driving the Andrea Gail Trawling in the Pacific!

I will be Trolling in the Thames man!


ETA : So back on topic, Can it be done? Any good spots? smile

Edited by m0ssy on Friday 13th May 09:50

Piersman2

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228 months

Friday 13th May 2011
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tontoro said:
Obviously you're not a fisherman Eric

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolling_(fishing)
Well, well. Learn something everyday. Explains where the use of 'Trolling' comes from in relation to internets Trolls; nothing to do with lurking under bridges, but everything to do with hanging a line out there and seeing what bites.

Hard-Drive

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258 months

Friday 13th May 2011
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Now I'm not a fisherman by a very long way, I'm a yotty, but I love throwing a mackerel line out the back and catching dinner. Those vanes are excellent, they work really well.

However...I tend not to fish in even in the Solent, let alone the Thames, do you really want to eat something out of there? (Please correct me knowlegable fisherfolk as I'd love to be proven wrong!)

Also, IMHO speed is fairly irrelevant for mackerel, I find that the faster you are going the bigger fish you get! I caught a whopper off Portland at about 6 knots (boatspeed, not SOG)

nevgroom

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188 months

Friday 13th May 2011
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....and back to the Mack..

From Southend outwards would work (assuming estuary is anywhere between Clacton and Margate), probably a bit early (maybe wait another 3-4 weeks and they should be jumping).

m0ssy

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Friday 13th May 2011
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Hard-Drive said:
Now I'm not a fisherman by a very long way, I'm a yotty, but I love throwing a mackerel line out the back and catching dinner. Those vanes are excellent, they work really well.

However...I tend not to fish in even in the Solent, let alone the Thames, do you really want to eat something out of there? (Please correct me knowlegable fisherfolk as I'd love to be proven wrong!)

Also, IMHO speed is fairly irrelevant for mackerel, I find that the faster you are going the bigger fish you get! I caught a whopper off Portland at about 6 knots (boatspeed, not SOG)
TBF the Thames is pretty clean these days. Someone correct me if I am wrong but a species of prawn or seahorse or something was fairly recently discovered in the London stretch of the Thames.


So if they are there.... the answer is YES I will happily catch and eat em

m0ssy

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Friday 13th May 2011
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nevgroom said:
....and back to the Mack..

From Southend outwards would work (assuming estuary is anywhere between Clacton and Margate), probably a bit early (maybe wait another 3-4 weeks and they should be jumping).
Excellent. A bit further out than I anticipated. But 3 - 4 weeks would be perfect for a planned trip.

jhfozzy

1,345 posts

219 months

Friday 13th May 2011
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Hard-Drive said:
Also, IMHO speed is fairly irrelevant for mackerel, I find that the faster you are going the bigger fish you get! I caught a whopper off Portland at about 6 knots (boatspeed, not SOG)
I've noticed this as well, must be something to do with the smaller fish not being able to keep up with the lures.

We tend to start off trolling [sniggers at Eric MC, that genuinely made me lol] fast and then slow down if we're not catching well.

Eric Mc

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Friday 13th May 2011
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tontoro said:
Eric Mc said:
Folks - the word is TRAWL.

This is a TRAWL -




This is a TROLL -

Obviously you're not a fisherman Eric

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolling_(fishing)
I come from a long line of fishermen, I'll have you know. I am the first generation of my family NOT to work at sea.

When did the spelling "troll" take over from "trawl" then?

I have never seen the word "troll" being used in a fishing context. My dad worked on "trawlers" and he made "trawl nets". (We still have the repair gear at home).


Edited by Eric Mc on Friday 13th May 10:32

shakotan

10,862 posts

225 months

Friday 13th May 2011
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Eric Mc said:
I come from a long line of fishermen, I'll have you know. I am the first generation of my family NOT to work at sea.
Makes it even more embarrassing that you got it wrong then.

Eric Mc

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Friday 13th May 2011
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shakotan said:
Eric Mc said:
I come from a long line of fishermen, I'll have you know. I am the first generation of my family NOT to work at sea.
Makes it even more embarrassing that you got it wrong then.
Just read up on wiki and it appears they are two separate types of fishing.

As you were then. smile

Lost soul

8,712 posts

211 months

Friday 13th May 2011
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Eric Mc said:
Folks - the word is TRAWL.

This is a TRAWL -




This is a TROLL -

Fail

m0ssy

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Friday 13th May 2011
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Eric Mc said:
Just read up on wiki and it appears they are two separate types of fishing.

As you were then. smile
Ok if you insist ...

Now what about these tasty mackerell in the Thames?? smile

Eric Mc

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294 months

Friday 13th May 2011
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I was wondering when someone would say that.

Maybe I was just "trolling"?

Eric Mc

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Friday 13th May 2011
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m0ssy said:
Eric Mc said:
Just read up on wiki and it appears they are two separate types of fishing.

As you were then. smile
Ok if you insist ...

Now what about these tasty mackerell in the Thames?? smile
I thought the Thames was all about eels.