Incredibly cool photos of trains
Discussion
Mercdriver said:
Has to be bacon and eggs cooked on the shovel? Bet it is the best breakfast you have tasted.
Best toast I ever tasted was two buttered slices of bread toasted on the workshop heater then separated, bread tasted better many years ago too.
It does still if you learn to make it. My lovely cousin Dylis taught me when I was a kid. I've been making her bread for nearly 60 years - it's ridiculously easy and far better than anything you can buy. Best toast I ever tasted was two buttered slices of bread toasted on the workshop heater then separated, bread tasted better many years ago too.
No more than ten minutes work in a loaf; the rest is waiting time.
ETA: apologies for the thread drift.
Stedman said:
Maybe not ‘incredibly cool’, however these images are from the ETCS Testing that’s happening on the Moorgate line as part of the East Coast Digital Project.
Perhaps what would be cool would be to explain ETCS to the less familiar. I know what it stands for but I thought railways like the DLR already had it. What are they testing?RichB said:
Perhaps what would be cool would be to explain ETCS to the less familiar. I know what it stands for but I thought railways like the DLR already had it. What are they testing?
ETCS - European Train Control System is a signalling system. Network Rail are currently undertaking a project to renew the signals between London Kings Cross and Peterborough on the East Coast Main Line (ECML) as the current signals are nearly life expired. It is a big project involving all the train operating companies that operate over the ECML as there is a significant amount of equipment which needs fitting to the trains/locos. ETCS is an 'in-cab' signalling system so needs new equipment on the vehicles to communicate with the trackside equipment.Whether the DLR has ETCS I am not 100% sure, but the Cambrian line from Shrewbury to Pwllheli & Aberystwyth was upgraded to ETCS a few years ago as a test case as it is effectively an isolated line.
The testing taking place on the Northern City Line is checking the system works in that area (GTRs 387, 700 & 717 units have ETCS equipment fitted) as expected so that when we 'go live' there aren't any issues.
meb90 said:
RichB said:
Perhaps what would be cool would be to explain ETCS to the less familiar. I know what it stands for but I thought railways like the DLR already had it. What are they testing?
ETCS - European Train Control System is a signalling system. Network Rail are currently undertaking a project to renew the signals between London Kings Cross and Peterborough on the East Coast Main Line (ECML) as the current signals are nearly life expired. It is a big project involving all the train operating companies that operate over the ECML as there is a significant amount of equipment which needs fitting to the trains/locos. ETCS is an 'in-cab' signalling system so needs new equipment on the vehicles to communicate with the trackside equipment.Whether the DLR has ETCS I am not 100% sure, but the Cambrian line from Shrewbury to Pwllheli & Aberystwyth was upgraded to ETCS a few years ago as a test case as it is effectively an isolated line.
The testing taking place on the Northern City Line is checking the system works in that area (GTRs 387, 700 & 717 units have ETCS equipment fitted) as expected so that when we 'go live' there aren't any issues.
I thought it was a system of driverless train control but obviously not. Sounds impressive, always good to hear our railways are upgrading systems. Using 'Victorian' or at least outdated systems has long been the Achilles heel of our railways. RichB said:
Thanks, perhaps I didn't know what it stood for I thought it was a system of driverless train control but obviously not. Sounds impressive, always good to hear our railways are upgrading systems. Using 'Victorian' or at least outdated systems has long been the Achilles heel of our railways.
I thought it was a system of driverless train control but obviously not. Sounds impressive, always good to hear our railways are upgrading systems. Using 'Victorian' or at least outdated systems has long been the Achilles heel of our railways. no worries. There is a version of ETCS which allows for automatic train operation, but I don't know of it being used anywhere yet.You're right, the signalling system is the best part of 200 years old which has some limitations! Especially around line capacity, which ETCS will improve.
velocemitch said:
I find it pleasantly astonishing that there areas Still using Semaphores.
I was stood at a crossing on the settle Carlisle line last month, listening to the sound of the bells in the signal box. Wouldn’t have sounded any different when the line was first built.
I know! I personally like the look of them, and the sounds of a signal box, but I think for the modern railway which needs more capacity and for it to be easier to catch up delays then something needs to change. I was stood at a crossing on the settle Carlisle line last month, listening to the sound of the bells in the signal box. Wouldn’t have sounded any different when the line was first built.
meb90 said:
no worries. There is a version of ETCS which allows for automatic train operation, but I don't know of it being used anywhere yet.You're right, the signalling system is the best part of 200 years old which has some limitations! Especially around line capacity, which ETCS will improve.
I know! I personally like the look of them, and the sounds of a signal box, but I think for the modern railway which needs more capacity and for it to be easier to catch up delays then something needs to change.
These 700s were, until recently, starting off semaphores at Littlehampton before driving themselves in the 'Core'.
Dichotomy or what!
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