Suez blocked by stuck ship!

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dr_gn

16,264 posts

187 months

Thursday 25th March 2021
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hidetheelephants said:
dr_gn said:
Maybe been asked before, but instead of pissing about with tug boats, why don't they just tie it to the next massive containers ship back, shove it in reverse, and pull it out with that?
Ships don't steer worth a damn going backward until they're going at several knots so there's very good odds it would bury itself into the canal bank, if that didn't happen then once steerage is achieved the centre of rotation would likely result in the canal bank being bothered by the other end.
Could use the tugs to keep the massive ship aligned?

paralla

3,680 posts

138 months

Thursday 25th March 2021
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Seight_Returns said:
How are they managing the ships already in the canal and queued up behind - without themselves running aground ?

I find holding station in a 30 foot yacht queuing for the lock at Chi Marina a challenge - doing it in a single screw 100k ton container ship with huge windage that doesn't answer the helm at less than 5 knots must be very difficult.
It's normal for ships to anchor either side of the canal for a day or so before entering the canal. It's also common to have to anchor in the bitter lakes in the middle of the canal.


Simpo Two

86,118 posts

268 months

Thursday 25th March 2021
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dr_gn said:
Could use the tugs to keep the massive ship aligned?
Do they have thrusters like cruise ships?

3,000 years ago the Ancient Egyptians could have shifted it - 50,000 slaves with ropes and shovels.

FourWheelDrift

88,941 posts

287 months

Thursday 25th March 2021
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The Suez Canal Authority have made a video showing them having a few looks at it and not being able to move it, to dramatic music.

Free to watch no account needed - https://www.facebook.com/SuezCanalAuthorityEG/vide...

Scabutz

7,905 posts

83 months

Thursday 25th March 2021
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Simpo Two

86,118 posts

268 months

Thursday 25th March 2021
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FourWheelDrift said:
The Suez Canal Authority have made a video showing them having a few looks at it and not being able to move it, to dramatic music.
'Tried to lift it, couldn't even shift it, we was getting nowhere...' (Bernard Cribbins)

Coolbananas

4,418 posts

203 months

Thursday 25th March 2021
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I reckon Boris could sort this out quickly for them.

Call in The Dam Busters and send over 19 Lancasters and blow a bloody big hole through the middle of the Ever Given so that the other ships can cruise merrily through.

Easy. smile

FourWheelDrift

88,941 posts

287 months

Thursday 25th March 2021
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Coolbananas said:
I reckon Boris could sort this out quickly for them.

Call in The Dam Busters and send over 19 Lancasters and blow a bloody big hole through the middle of the Ever Given so that the other ships can cruise merrily through.

Easy. smile
We still have a Hawker Sea Hawk, a type that's got experience of attacking shipping in the Suez area. That could be airworthy again and ready for another run.

Tango13

8,619 posts

179 months

Thursday 25th March 2021
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During the Yom Kippur war the Egyptian army breached the defensive sand wall of the Bar Lev line by simply washing the sand away with high pressure water.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-66seomf2K4

I don't see why the same method wouldn't work to blast the sand out from under the ship.

aeropilot

35,336 posts

230 months

Thursday 25th March 2021
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FourWheelDrift said:
Coolbananas said:
I reckon Boris could sort this out quickly for them.

Call in The Dam Busters and send over 19 Lancasters and blow a bloody big hole through the middle of the Ever Given so that the other ships can cruise merrily through.

Easy. smile
We still have a Hawker Sea Hawk, a type that's got experience of attacking shipping in the Suez area. That could be airworthy again and ready for another run.
Given its in lots of bits....

More chance of getting HHA's Buccaneer up and running, and along with their Hunters they could re-enact the Torrey Canyon bombing runs.....


Simpo Two

86,118 posts

268 months

Thursday 25th March 2021
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Coolbananas said:
I reckon Boris could sort this out quickly for them.

Call in The Dam Busters and send over 19 Lancasters and blow a bloody big hole through the middle of the Ever Given so that the other ships can cruise merrily through.

Easy. smile
Or dig a by-pass canal round it and convert the EverStuck into a hotel...

bolidemichael

14,174 posts

204 months

Thursday 25th March 2021
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FourWheelDrift said:
The Suez Canal Authority have made a video showing them having a few looks at it and not being able to move it, to dramatic music.

Free to watch no account needed - https://www.facebook.com/SuezCanalAuthorityEG/vide...
In the interconnectedness of today world, via the' interweb, how is it possible to create a video and make it appear as though it's from the eighties?!

BenRichards89

676 posts

138 months

Thursday 25th March 2021
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robuk said:
some great images from space



Nice shots for the bad parking thread hehe

hidetheelephants

26,366 posts

196 months

Thursday 25th March 2021
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dr_gn said:
hidetheelephants said:
dr_gn said:
Maybe been asked before, but instead of pissing about with tug boats, why don't they just tie it to the next massive containers ship back, shove it in reverse, and pull it out with that?
Ships don't steer worth a damn going backward until they're going at several knots so there's very good odds it would bury itself into the canal bank, if that didn't happen then once steerage is achieved the centre of rotation would likely result in the canal bank being bothered by the other end.
Could use the tugs to keep the massive ship aligned?
You could do that, but if you have tugs you don't need a lumbering deadweight getting in the way.

bolidemichael said:
FourWheelDrift said:
The Suez Canal Authority have made a video showing them having a few looks at it and not being able to move it, to dramatic music.

Free to watch no account needed - https://www.facebook.com/SuezCanalAuthorityEG/vide...
In the interconnectedness of today world, via the' interweb, how is it possible to create a video and make it appear as though it's from the eighties?!
hehe It was like that when I went through 20 years ago, a lot of chaps standing around watching one guy actually earning his keep. Inshallah!

williamp

19,386 posts

276 months

Thursday 25th March 2021
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For such an important route, why not build a second canal, parrallel to the first?? Genuine question: I know this is a one off incident, but for auch an important trade route, to be reduced to one canal which seems to be one-way..

Flooble

5,565 posts

103 months

Thursday 25th March 2021
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Hideously expensive, not the most stable of regions so funding would be interesting and presumes there is enough traffic to justify two? China might do something with its belt and road plans but it seems unlikely to me.

normalbloke

7,528 posts

222 months

Thursday 25th March 2021
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So, what would the toll fee be for the Evergreen? How much lost revenue so far?

motco

16,097 posts

249 months

Thursday 25th March 2021
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williamp said:
For such an important route, why not build a second canal, parrallel to the first?? Genuine question: I know this is a one off incident, but for auch an important trade route, to be reduced to one canal which seems to be one-way..
BBC reported that an old channel has been opened to bypass the blockage.

DeltonaS

3,707 posts

141 months

Thursday 25th March 2021
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williamp said:
For such an important route, why not build a second canal, parrallel to the first?? Genuine question: I know this is a one off incident, but for auch an important trade route, to be reduced to one canal which seems to be one-way..
They've done just that recently, except this part is still one canal.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suez_Canal_Area_Deve...


Flooble

5,565 posts

103 months

Thursday 25th March 2021
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Apparently it was also funded without foreign investment, so I was totally wrong!