Suez blocked by stuck ship!

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Krikkit

26,731 posts

184 months

Thursday 25th March 2021
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Simpo Two said:
Right, what they need to do is build a dam across the canal on each side of the ship, then pump water in-between them to raise the level around the ship until it floats off. Then move the ship until its in the middle and pointing the right way, then blow the dams up.
hehe The work of but a moment!

tertius

6,881 posts

233 months

Thursday 25th March 2021
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anonymous said:
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Not really - the Caledonian Canal has locks, including a sea lock at each end - the Suez Canal does not.

Pupp

12,300 posts

275 months

Thursday 25th March 2021
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anonymous said:
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From my experience of sailing the length of the Caledonian Canal, all this problem needs is a few trawlers in a hurry and to paint the stuck vessel up as if a leisure craft. They’d soon nerf it out their way...

Blackpuddin

16,789 posts

208 months

Thursday 25th March 2021
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Could giant inflatables have a part to play in this, as used (I think) in raising wrecks from the seabed, or is that daft/unworkable physics?

Pupp

12,300 posts

275 months

Thursday 25th March 2021
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Evoluzione said:
Badda said:
This is going to blow your minds but the sand actually goes under the sea too. It's not just on the bit you can see.
So why doesn't the sea drain away through it then?
It does, but at a rate less than its replenishment by rain and fish wee

thegreenhell

16,067 posts

222 months

Thursday 25th March 2021
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dr_gn said:
Maybe been asked before, but instead of pissing about with tug boats, why don't they just tie it to the next massive containers ship back, shove it in reverse, and pull it out with that?
or get one of them to do a handbrake turn next to it, and use the wave that creates to re-float it.

tertius

6,881 posts

233 months

Thursday 25th March 2021
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Blackpuddin said:
Could giant inflatables have a part to play in this, as used (I think) in raising wrecks from the seabed, or is that daft/unworkable physics?
Ship camels maybe?

Suspect they'd be better off unloading the thing first, though as discussed earlier, probably easier said than done.

outnumbered

4,187 posts

237 months

Thursday 25th March 2021
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At what point is it worth the ships in the queue giving up and going round Africa?

Tye Green

705 posts

112 months

Thursday 25th March 2021
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it seems that water level is about 18m which doesn't sound much to support a 200,000 ton ship?

B4rnst4ble

790 posts

152 months

Thursday 25th March 2021
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Blackpuddin said:
Could giant inflatables have a part to play in this, as used (I think) in raising wrecks from the seabed, or is that daft/unworkable physics?
I have one I could let them have only use it for a few weeks a year not sure how it will help though

Simpo Two

86,022 posts

268 months

Thursday 25th March 2021
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outnumbered said:
At what point is it worth the ships in the queue giving up and going round Africa?
You can imagine all the captains thinking 'bks, must be an accident, wonder if there's another way?' and tapping 'Alternative route' into their satnavs...

In reality the issue may be fuel. But there could be opportunities for small boats to go round selling burgers and hot dogs...

paralla

3,664 posts

138 months

Thursday 25th March 2021
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They will be able to reduce the draft a good few meters by de-ballasting which is probably fine due to the calm water reducing the requirement for the ballast to provide stability. De-ballasting is way easier than unloading containers. A load of assurance will have to be done by naval architects to ensure stability in the loaded condition remains before pumping the ballast water out. They are probably also considering the stress on the hull, you cant just load and unload a containership willy nilly, it has to be carefully planned in order for the hull not to break in half just from the weight of the ballast water and the cargo.

thegreenhell

16,067 posts

222 months

Thursday 25th March 2021
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Well you wouldn't want the front to fall off.

anonymous-user

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57 months

Thursday 25th March 2021
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Simpo Two said:
Right, what they need to do is build a dam across the canal on each side of the ship, then pump water in-between them to raise the level around the ship until it floats off. Then move the ship until its in the middle and pointing the right way, then blow the dams up.
And what will they do after lunch??? ;-)

lufbramatt

5,381 posts

137 months

Thursday 25th March 2021
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Tye Green said:
it seems that water level is about 18m which doesn't sound much to support a 200,000 ton ship?
Draught of the Ever Given is just under 16m

Simpo Two

86,022 posts

268 months

Thursday 25th March 2021
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Tye Green said:
it seems that water level is about 18m which doesn't sound much to support a 200,000 ton ship?
Depends how long/wide the ship is. Ever Given is 15.7m reported draught according to marinetraffic.com . Interestingly their 'past track' feature doesn't work for this ship - maybe disabled? - so I can't see what shape it drew before it entered the canal. Also none of the other ships queueing up seem to be giving 'squawk codes'...

Byker28i

62,468 posts

220 months

Thursday 25th March 2021
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good photo of the village near it



anonymous-user

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57 months

Thursday 25th March 2021
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Byker28i said:
good photo of the village near it


Does it have a Tesco? Perhaps it's got a shopping trolley wrapped around the prop.......you may laugh but it happened to me on the K & A canal.

nonsequitur

20,083 posts

119 months

Thursday 25th March 2021
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Byker28i said:
good photo of the village near it


Estate agents dream .'Close to the river and next door to the shops'.

anonymous-user

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57 months

Thursday 25th March 2021
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Tye Green said:
it seems that water level is about 18m which doesn't sound much to support a 200,000 ton ship?
Google 'Archimedes principle', all will be clear!