Suez blocked by stuck ship!

[Evoluzione]

Dan_1981 said:

Here's a very basic question...

Does the canal have a current? Which way does it flow?

And if the boat is grounded - as in properly stuck isn't the flow of water restricted some what... why isn't it have a damn like effect? or is the boat still pretty much floating but just stuck at both ends?

Canals don't have current, rivers do though.

[thegreenhell]

Red9zero said:

Have they got a local 4x4 Response team ?

Matt's going to need his biggest yellow recovery rope for this job.

[Evoluzione]

yellowjack said:

Evoluzione said:

There is talk of it effecting the supply of goods and maybe fuel to us pretty quickly. It was loaded up with tat from China bound for Europe so that won't get here, along with all the other ships it's holding up.

Damn it all, stop telling everyone. I'm busy panic buying Shimano bike parts right now, so that I can weather any shortages and keep my bike on the road...

It's petrol you need to be panic buying, the price of crude oil went up 6% on Weds as a result of this.*

• Apparently, according to the BBC

[anonymous-user]

Dan_1981 said:

Here's a very basic question...

Does the canal have a current? Which way does it flow?

And if the boat is grounded - as in properly stuck isn't the flow of water restricted some what... why isn't it have a damn like effect? or is the boat still pretty much floating but just stuck at both ends?

I posted a link yesterday that seemed to say that because of the different levels at each end there is a current and it's direction varies.

[mac96]

thegreenhell said:

Red9zero said:

Have they got a local 4x4 Response team ?

Matt's going to need his biggest yellow recovery rope for this job.

Not sure whether that counts as obscure or not but I like it!

[thewarlock]

Evoluzione said:

Dan_1981 said:

Here's a very basic question...

Does the canal have a current? Which way does it flow?

And if the boat is grounded - as in properly stuck isn't the flow of water restricted some what... why isn't it have a damn like effect? or is the boat still pretty much floating but just stuck at both ends?

Canals don't have current, rivers do though.

It's a canal, in that it's man made.

But there are no locks, it's open to the sea at each end,

[ZymoTech]

And another basic question. What keeps the water in ? Is there any kind of lining on the bed of the canal or is it just water on top of the sand ?

[Simpo Two]

ZymoTech said:

And another basic question. What keeps the water in ? Is there any kind of lining on the bed of the canal or is it just water on top of the sand ?

If there are no locks it's at sea level. So the water doesn't need to be kept in...

[Badda]

ZymoTech said:

And another basic question. What keeps the water in ? Is there any kind of lining on the bed of the canal or is it just water on top of the sand ?

haha. Have you ever been to a beach?

[hidetheelephants]

Sheepshanks said:

Simpo Two said:

ZymoTech said:

And another basic question. What keeps the water in ? Is there any kind of lining on the bed of the canal or is it just water on top of the sand ?

If there are no locks it's at sea level. So the water doesn't need to be kept in...

Must admit I was surprised when they were talking about high tide - wonder what the height range is?

[anonymous-user]

hidetheelephants said:

Sheepshanks said:

Simpo Two said:

ZymoTech said:

And another basic question. What keeps the water in ? Is there any kind of lining on the bed of the canal or is it just water on top of the sand ?

If there are no locks it's at sea level. So the water doesn't need to be kept in...

Must admit I was surprised when they were talking about high tide - wonder what the height range is?

I posted this yesterday which seems to confirm the range is not very much.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/240441695...

[Simpo Two]

Right, what they need to do is build a dam across the canal on each side of the ship, then pump water in-between them to raise the level around the ship until it floats off. Then move the ship until its in the middle and pointing the right way, then blow the dams up.

[tertius]

Badda said:

ZymoTech said:

And another basic question. What keeps the water in ? Is there any kind of lining on the bed of the canal or is it just water on top of the sand ?

haha. Have you ever been to a beach?

To be fair I think the name "Suez Canal" makes people assume it is something like a British canal which are made to put water where it isn't naturally meant to be and they do have to be made watertight, as otherwise it will all leak out ... and does!

(And before anyone starts about the correct definition of 'canal' I am just highlighting the association that the name creates ... )

[Evoluzione]

Badda said:

ZymoTech said:

And another basic question. What keeps the water in ? Is there any kind of lining on the bed of the canal or is it just water on top of the sand ?

haha. Have you ever been to a beach?

I have, if I fill a hole there with water it just drains away.

It's not a bad question. The canals in the UK are lined with clay to stop them from draining, they are also being constantly topped up by streams, but have overflows at a certain height so they can't overfill.

[take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey]

Badda said:

ZymoTech said:

And another basic question. What keeps the water in ? Is there any kind of lining on the bed of the canal or is it just water on top of the sand ?

haha. Have you ever been to a beach?

Yeah but the sea runs away before it gets soaked into the sand. That's what tides are for.

[Badda]

This is going to blow your minds but the sand actually goes under the sea too. It's not just on the bit you can see.

[ThunderSpook]

tertius said:

To be fair I think the name "Suez Canal" makes people assume it is something like a British canal which are made to put water where it isn't naturally meant to be

Like a desert you mean?

[dr_gn]

Maybe been asked before, but instead of pissing about with tug boats, why don't they just tie it to the next massive containers ship back, shove it in reverse, and pull it out with that?

[Evoluzione]

Badda said:

This is going to blow your minds but the sand actually goes under the sea too. It's not just on the bit you can see.

So why doesn't the sea drain away through it then?

[tertius]

ThunderSpook said:

tertius said:

To be fair I think the name "Suez Canal" makes people assume it is something like a British canal which are made to put water where it isn't naturally meant to be

Like a desert you mean?

Well yeeeees, but the Suez Canal a) reaches the sea at sea level and b) joins a number of natural lakes together which are both the sort of places one would normally expect to find water.