rolex 1st time buyer(sub,gmt) need advise

[g@ry]

hi
i sold my omega seamater quartz last week and am after either a sub or gmt,
the cash i have is around 1900-2k,i am english but live in sweden ( i travel to see family in wigan 5-6 times a year) the questions i have are-
the list price for a sub here is 42000kr new (c.a 3200 quid),i am travelling over to the north west in september (24th) and will be there for a week,anywhere in manchester area sell nearly new subs or gmt?or anyone selling one from the forum?
i,m looking to get the newest possible(been offered a g/s gmt here for £1900 but its a 1990 model and he doesnt know when it was last serviced

sorry to sound a bit retarded but how do you wind these up ?
and whats the fourth finger for on the gmt???
many thanks for your help guys ,any info much appreciated
kind regards gary

[Seb d]

g@ry said:

hi
i sold my omega seamater quartz last week and am after either a sub or gmt,
the cash i have is around 1900-2k,i am english but live in sweden ( i travel to see family in wigan 5-6 times a year) the questions i have are-
the list price for a sub here is 42000kr new (c.a 3200 quid),i am travelling over to the north west in september (24th) and will be there for a week,anywhere in manchester area sell nearly new subs or gmt?or anyone selling one from the forum?
i,m looking to get the newest possible(been offered a g/s gmt here for £1900 but its a 1990 model and he doesnt know when it was last serviced

sorry to sound a bit retarded but how do you wind these up ?
and whats the fourth finger for on the gmt???
many thanks for your help guys ,any info much appreciated
kind regards gary

Can't help you on the shopping front, but I paid £2000 for a '99 16610 Sub last year.
Can't remember how it winds as I haven't worn it in ages but it must have a manual wind function to get it going after which it's self-winding.
As for the fourth 'finger,' you must be referring to the fourth hand, which is the GMT hand. You use it to indicate a second time zone and it's very versatile as you can either move the GMT hand indepedently or leave it alone to indicate your home timezone and move the hour hand to set the watch to a new timezone. Hope that helps, and apologies for any spelling/grammar mistakes, I've had some wine...

[horacethefrog]

Strange question from someone ready to blow £2k on a watch Anyway, on a GMT you unscrew the crown and it has three positions - the first is to wind it, the second to move the normal hour hand and the third stops the movement and moves all three hands. Ordinarily the hour hand and the 24 hour hand will be indicating the same hour (although they won't be aligned because the 24 hour hand reads off the 24 hour bezel). If you go to a different time zone, you pull the crown out to the second position and change the normal hour hand to the time of the place where you are now, leaving the 24 hour hand showing the time at home.

[g@ry]

thanks for your help,much appreciated
why strange question??and i,ll spend my money however i like,thankyou very much

[anonymous-user]

g@ry said:

thanks for your help,much appreciated
why strange question??and i,ll spend my money however i like,thankyou very much

I think it's because you were going to buy a gmt without knowing what it was.

[horacethefrog]

Correct, El Stovey. And Gary, I only said it was a strange question, I don't recall saying anything about how you spend your money. Most people spending that kind of money on a watch will do a great deal of research before buying whereas you appear to be on the verge of buying without even knowing the most basic attributes of the watch. Hence the question seemed unusual to me.

[cyberface]

horacethefrog said:

Correct, El Stovey. And Gary, I only said it was a strange question, I don't recall saying anything about how you spend your money. Most people spending that kind of money on a watch will do a great deal of research before buying whereas you appear to be on the verge of buying without even knowing the most basic attributes of the watch. Hence the question seemed unusual to me.

Perhaps he just likes the look of the two watches and considers them to be different styles of the same model (and hasn't made the connection between the acronym GMT and the fact that the watch has an additional complication) ??

Hell, I didn't buy my first Rolex (Explorer II) because of the second timezone complication either, and it wasn't until I read the users manual that I knew what I could use it for!!! It was because I liked the design and couldn't afford a Daytona back then

Just because I'm a watch geek now doesn't mean that I was back then - in fact, I'd say that buying your first 'serious' watch with a complication other than date is likely to be the starting point for learning about watches, rather than learning about complications being a pre-requisite to buying them. It was only once I'd learned how marvellously intricate and complex the mechanisms were that I started to get enthusiastic about watches - beforehand I'd bought purely on cost/quality ratio.

So perhaps not such an odd question after all - he has, after all, written '1st time buyer' in the subject field...

On the other hand, you could be right and both him and I are complete weirdos. I've been wrong before...

[tomtom]

A Swedish friend of mine waits until he is in the UK to buy his watches. I've also noticed they're a bit dearer in Sweden than over here from my small bouts of window shopping in Stockholm.

[wong]

With the GMT Master - the 24 hour hand cannot be moved independantly of the 12 hour hand. You get the second time zone by moving the bezel
With the GMT Master II - you can ( as described in previous post)

[Shuvi]

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Edited by Shuvi on Monday 18th August 16:43