Seadweller 16600

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BRGS

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33 posts

231 months

Wednesday 21st May 2008
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Now i am pretty sure i am going to get one of these but i wonder if anyone can advise
1) Is it basically the same as the Submariner but without the bubble on the date
2) At £3000 i can get 2 Omega Seamasters for the same money so why not?
3) Is the 16600 a long standing model? Might i be better looking for a preowned one as i can get one for about £2000 i guess and it should be as good as new.

Dominic H

3,277 posts

239 months

Wednesday 21st May 2008
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BRGS said:
Now i am pretty sure i am going to get one of these but i wonder if anyone can advise
1) Is it basically the same as the Submariner but without the bubble on the date
2) At £3000 i can get 2 Omega Seamasters for the same money so why not?
3) Is the 16600 a long standing model? Might i be better looking for a preowned one as i can get one for about £2000 i guess and it should be as good as new.
To answer your questions;

1. The Seadweller 16600 is part of the Submariner series, but waterproof to 4000ft rather than 1000ft for the 16610/14060M Submariner. It has a thicker crystal and a thicker case back to ensure greater waterproof abilities. More importantly, it also has the Helium escape valve in the case side. These are the principal physical differences between the two types.
2. You could do, but if you appreciate the better build quality of the Seadweller you'll justify the extra cost.
3. The watch has been around in 16600 form for around 20 years. It will shortly be replaced by the Seadweller Deep Sea, which is waterproof to 12800ft. If you can find a good pre-owned watch for c£2k, that has got to be a 'no brainer', as it should be depreciation free.
Once they're properly serviced, they look as good as new.

Hope this helps....

erasuretim

14 posts

208 months

Thursday 22nd May 2008
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You should try a Seadweller on before you buy. Their profile means they sit high on some peoples wrists and may flop about particularly if you have spindly ones like me. I went for the 14060m [no date sub]

Regards

Tim

fade2grey

704 posts

255 months

Thursday 22nd May 2008
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Yup, I've got a SD & can highly recommend them, mine sees every day use & abuse.

Try one on first though.. it's not slim & not light. You'll either like it or loathe it.. it tooke me ages to get used to it. It also doesn't fit too well under shirts if you wear french cuffs & cufflinks.. or too well with snowboarding type jackets with wrist tubes to stop the snow.

other than that.. it's a fantastic piece of engineering.

Asterix

24,438 posts

235 months

Thursday 22nd May 2008
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1) Is it basically the same as the Submariner but without the bubble on the date

No - Yes - sort of - Looks are similar but the engineering is a bit different - as explained above.

2) At £3000 i can get 2 Omega Seamasters for the same money so why not?

It is a serious bit of kit with an extremely reliable in-house movement

3) Is the 16600 a long standing model? Might i be better looking for a preowned one as i can get one for about £2000 i guess and it should be as good as new.

As said - no brainer

I love mine to peices - it feels indestructable, is accurate, as un-bling as a Rolex can be, tested to the max and the engineering is fabulous. Looks great on and the weight thing disappears after a few mins (for me anyway). Feels very odd to have it of now which is fine as its my daily drive - so to speak.

Can't say I'm a fan of the Deep Sea SD - too bling - and as its larger, vcould overwhelm the skinnier wrist. Saying that - you can't deny the step up in engineering.

stuttgartmetal

8,113 posts

223 months

Thursday 22nd May 2008
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They are a bit of a lump.
have you tried the non-date sub ?
No bubble on crystal.
About half the price of a dweller.
Ive got one iyi, just serviced.

SpydieNut

5,833 posts

230 months

Thursday 22nd May 2008
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another SD fan here wavey

had mine 9 yrs now - every day use and abuse. looks perfect thumbup

i don't like the look of the new deep sea but would like to try one on - just for fun.

does anyone know the retail of the deep sea?

andy tims

5,593 posts

253 months

Thursday 22nd May 2008
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Another SD fan here. I bought mine for £2k from Second Time Round in London. It's 7 years old but looks absoletely brand new.

x5x3

2,424 posts

260 months

Thursday 22nd May 2008
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SpydieNut said:
another SD fan here wavey

had mine 9 yrs now - every day use and abuse. looks perfect thumbup

i don't like the look of the new deep sea but would like to try one on - just for fun.

does anyone know the retail of the deep sea?
I think I saw a rumour of £4800 which sounds about right, I think it will be much more a matter of individual taste than the old one, I have put my name down for one and will see what they look like in real life rather than a photo before deciding.

Another vote for the current SD - it is my daily wear

Flat six

47 posts

219 months

Thursday 22nd May 2008
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Put a brand new SD on my wrist 4 weeks ago, been worn 24/7 since and even sold my Tag Carrera Automatic tonight as nothing will take up wrist time in place of my Dweller.

stiglet

1,082 posts

241 months

Thursday 22nd May 2008
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SpydieNut said:
i don't like the look of the new deep sea but would like to try one on - just for fun.
I tried one on this week at the local dealer who had one on loan from Rolex.

I couldn't believe how big and heavy was compared to a "normal" SD. I think it's called a Deep Sea because that's where you'll go if you fall in whilst wearing one

I'm sure it will be popular and will sell well - but I'm afraid it's not for me.

SpydieNut

5,833 posts

230 months

Friday 23rd May 2008
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x5x3 said:
I think I saw a rumour of £4800
eek

thanks

as if i needed another reason to hang onto my SD - ^^that price^^ is it smile

stiglet said:
I think it's called a Deep Sea because that's where you'll go if you fall in whilst wearing one.
hehe

BRGS

Original Poster:

33 posts

231 months

Friday 23rd May 2008
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Thanks for all that advice, i am glad i asked. The new Deep Sea i can get for £4750 but i don't think that is the one. I was looking in the Rolex outlet at Schipol last night but the € does not help at the moment with that. Great shop though.

My daily watch is my TAG Carrera which is a big lump so no problem with that. Only thing is i am not planning any expeditions to 4000 ft so the Submariner would probably do me as well except for the (IMO) ugly date bubble lens.

BRGS

Original Poster:

33 posts

231 months

Friday 23rd May 2008
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Oh yes I meant to say, what's the damage for that Submariner then Stuttgart man?

stuttgartmetal

8,113 posts

223 months

Friday 23rd May 2008
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its go to be 12 fella.
3 services one every three years,plus a new strap/glass bezel within the last 12 mths

SpydieNut

5,833 posts

230 months

Friday 23rd May 2008
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BRGS said:
Only thing is i am not planning any expeditions to 4000 ft so the Submariner would probably do me as well except for the (IMO) ugly date bubble lens.
you could get the sub without the date (i dislike the bubble too smile - one of the reasons i got the SD )

Maxf

8,426 posts

248 months

Friday 23rd May 2008
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What you might be able to do is have a watchmaker put the sub non-date crystal into a sub-date - providing it fits. They can also knock off the bubbles and polish the glass back up 100% (rolex used to do this in house even, but stopped as they thought it was damaging sales of other 'no bubble' models).

Obviously you'd have a non-standard watch though.

BRGS

Original Poster:

33 posts

231 months

Monday 26th May 2008
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Well stuttgart if you are still paying attention I might very well be interested in that. can you send private mail in here?

Asterix

24,438 posts

235 months

Monday 26th May 2008
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SpydieNut said:
BRGS said:
Only thing is i am not planning any expeditions to 4000 ft so the Submariner would probably do me as well except for the (IMO) ugly date bubble lens.
you could get the sub without the date (i dislike the bubble too smile - one of the reasons i got the SD )
It was the lack of cyclops that swung it for me as well - I need a date on a watch I wear regularly and realy dislike the bubble. I also love the over-enginnering of the watch.

phumy

5,743 posts

244 months

Tuesday 27th May 2008
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Anyone know where i can purchase a good SD from, it doesnt need to be brand new, excellent condition is a must, also authenicity.

If someone, or knows someone, has one lurking that they dont use anymore and needs to raise some cash for the summer, let me know.