Daytona found

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Monty911

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467 posts

212 months

Friday 19th October 2007
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I have just found a black face daytona whilst doing a house clearence for a friend , I doubt it is real as there is no box or papers with iy although i also found a Submariner which is complete and will be keeping that one for myself.
The Daytona isnt working , how do i open the back to verify if its real and what should i be looking for , any advice appreciated .

Thanks

SpydieNut

5,833 posts

230 months

Friday 19th October 2007
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Monty911 said:
I have just found a black face daytona whilst doing a house clearence for a friend , I doubt it is real as there is no box or papers with iy although i also found a Submariner which is complete and will be keeping that one for myself.
The Daytona isnt working , how do i open the back to verify if its real and what should i be looking for , any advice appreciated .

Thanks
maybe i misread that. it sounds like you were clearing your friend's house and found 2 watches and you want to know what to do with them. if this is the case idea look for your 'friend' and give them back to him/her. if this is the case - how can you even ask the question of what to do with your friend's property?

i realise it could mean you were helping your friend out and clearing someone else's house and found the watches.

i would try and find the owners and return their property to them. but that's just me.

Monty911

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467 posts

212 months

Friday 19th October 2007
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Sorry I didnt make it clear , I was helping him clear a house thats his profession , on finding these he gave them back to me to keep , (Very generious I know but trust me he isnt short of cash plus we grew up together and have known each other over 30 years ).
So the question is what do I do with these.

Vesuvius 996

35,829 posts

278 months

Friday 19th October 2007
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Theft, anyone?


Monty911

Original Poster:

467 posts

212 months

Friday 19th October 2007
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No not theft ,
Please if you cant contribute something useful then please dont bother

SpydieNut

5,833 posts

230 months

Friday 19th October 2007
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i agree with soov (and i think you'll find his advice very legally accurate)

just because you don't like the answers you get, don't say they're not helpful.

it's not the same as finding £10 on the street (although even this you should try to find the owner and hand it in to the police) as you know who lived in that house. i'd say get in touch and return their property.

as an aside - how does this reflect on your friend's integrity and professionalism - this is his job. how many repeat customers will he get doing buisness like this and remember - word of mouth is very effective. just wait until the watch owners remember their property and return for it and he tells them to do one. do you think they won't tell their friends and or the police over these 2 watches????

GregE240

10,857 posts

274 months

Friday 19th October 2007
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You might wish to ask Vesuvius if he knows a good lawyer.

Marki

15,763 posts

277 months

Friday 19th October 2007
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GregE240 said:
You might wish to ask Vesuvius if he knows a good lawyer.
scratchchin he did once tell us about a Scrote he deffended who knew the law very very well hehe

Monty911

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467 posts

212 months

Friday 19th October 2007
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Its his Job , he is brought in to clear houses lock stock and barrel if some one has died or if asked .
Thats what he has done

Vesuvius 996

35,829 posts

278 months

Friday 19th October 2007
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Monty911 said:
No not theft ,
Please if you cant contribute something useful then please dont bother
Fine, if my answer is not palatable then disregard it.

BUT

1. Your mate is clearing someone's house. He is therefore dealing wiht their proprerty. If the person is dead, then the property belongs to their estate.

2. He finds two valuable watches. He knows that these are not his.

3. He gives them to you. You know that they are not his (see 1)

4. You then decide to keep them. In Law you are taking something "with the intenion of permanently depriving" the owner of that property. That's theft, "my sun" under Section 1 of the Theft Act. I forget the year of the act but hey, you're probably not interested anyway.


I've seen plenty of people banged up for doing exactly what you are thinking about.


Anyway, as I said,free advice willingly given. Take it or leave it.

Edited by Vesuvius 996 on Friday 19th October 12:20

Vesuvius 996

35,829 posts

278 months

Friday 19th October 2007
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Marki said:
GregE240 said:
You might wish to ask Vesuvius if he knows a good lawyer.
scratchchin he did once tell us about a Scrote he deffended who knew the law very very well hehe
hehe

SpydieNut

5,833 posts

230 months

Friday 19th October 2007
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Vesuvius 996 said:
Monty911 said:
No not theft ,
Please if you cant contribute something useful then please dont bother
Fine, if my answer is not palatable then disregard it.

BUT

1. Your mate is clearing someone's house. He is therefore dealing wiht their proprerty. If the person is dead, then the property belongs to their estate.

2. He finds two valuable watches. He knows that these are not his.

3. He gives them to you. You know that they are not his (see 1)

4. You then decide to keep them. In Law you are taking something "with the inention of permanently dperiving" the owner of that property. That's theft, "my sun."


I've seen plenty of people banged up for doing exactly what you are thinking about.


Anyway, as I said,free advice willingly given. Take it or leave it.
clap nicely put soov

i was going to make a comment about not often seeing free advice from lawyers, but i thought better of it hehegetmecoat

Marki

15,763 posts

277 months

Friday 19th October 2007
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Vesuvius 996 said:
Anyway, as I said, free advice willingly given.
You be carefull , you could be debarred for less than that hehe

SpydieNut

5,833 posts

230 months

Friday 19th October 2007
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and there's meant to be a hehe and a getmecoat after ^^ that ^^ footnote.


Vesuvius 996

35,829 posts

278 months

Friday 19th October 2007
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SpydieNut said:
Vesuvius 996 said:
Monty911 said:
No not theft ,
Please if you cant contribute something useful then please dont bother
Fine, if my answer is not palatable then disregard it.

BUT

1. Your mate is clearing someone's house. He is therefore dealing wiht their proprerty. If the person is dead, then the property belongs to their estate.

2. He finds two valuable watches. He knows that these are not his.

3. He gives them to you. You know that they are not his (see 1)

4. You then decide to keep them. In Law you are taking something "with the intenion of permanently depriving" the owner of that property. That's theft, "my sun" under Section 1 of the Theft Act. I forget the year of the act but hey, you're probably not interested anyway.


I've seen plenty of people banged up for doing exactly what you are thinking about.


Anyway, as I said,free advice willingly given. Take it or leave it.
clap nicely put soov

i was going to make a comment about not often seeing free advice from lawyers, but i thought better of it hehegetmecoat
There are none so blind as those that will not look.


Edited by Vesuvius 996 on Friday 19th October 12:18

Vesuvius 996

35,829 posts

278 months

Friday 19th October 2007
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anonymous said:
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Not sure.

Two scenarios.

1. He pays the owner of the house (or relatives, whatever) a sum of money. For this he buys the entire contents of the house. Ownership passes to him, and he can do what he wants.

2. He is paid by the householder to clear the house of contents. There is a fee paid for this service of clearing the place. Ownership of the contents DOES NOT pass to him. He DOES NOT own the goods, and must simply dispose of them. He can't just take what he wants!!!



Muzzer

3,814 posts

228 months

Friday 19th October 2007
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anonymous said:
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This is what I'm thinking. If I call someone for a house clearance, I give them £xx and they take everything away, lock stock. If there's a priceless Monet in there it's my hard luck - I've paid them to remove everything...

It's not like you're clearing a mate's belongings somewhere else...

I've seen Only Fools and Horses - expensive watches are found in these clearances. I know what I'm talking about...

Vesuvius 996

35,829 posts

278 months

Friday 19th October 2007
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Muzzer said:
anonymous said:
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I've seen Only Fools and Horses - expensive watches are found in these clearances. I know what I'm talking about...
OK OK OK. I'll shut the fvck up if it was (1)


Invoice is in the post.

JOETHETOE

548 posts

224 months

Friday 19th October 2007
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To be fair My wifes grandad gets paid to do this, I think he clears the house and the deal is he gets to keep the possesions usually alot of work for little reward but if this is the case he could have hit the lucky one>

May be legitimate in my opinion.

Vesuvius 996

35,829 posts

278 months

Friday 19th October 2007
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anonymous said:
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thumbup

To answer his question, get the serial number and call Rolex.