New Planet Ocean
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Bob_Defly

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5,070 posts

251 months

Tuesday 18th November
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Slightly thinner, no He valve, more angular case, very simple case back, PCLs.

I don't like it, something seems off. The case back looks cheap, and the dial/bezel proportions look off for some reason. No date complication and still 13.7mm thick. Plus the clasp is super shiny. It just doesn't look like a tool watch anymore.







Old one for comparison:






And my Railmaster has a more interesting case back than this PO.




Thoughts?

ChocolateFrog

33,869 posts

193 months

Tuesday 18th November
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You've put the "old one" bit in the wrong place. Just spent 5 mins trying and failing to spot the difference hehe

Old one looks better IMO.

Bob_Defly

Original Poster:

5,070 posts

251 months

Tuesday 18th November
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ChocolateFrog said:
You've put the "old one" bit in the wrong place. Just spent 5 mins trying and failing to spot the difference hehe

Old one looks better IMO.
hehe sorry, formatting. I agree.

Doofus

32,260 posts

193 months

Tuesday 18th November
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Bezel's too thick, face is too small.

a340driver

564 posts

175 months

Tuesday 18th November
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You're so right this is my SeaMaster Chrono from 2011. The detail is gorgeous!


ChocolateFrog

33,869 posts

193 months

Tuesday 18th November
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It looks a bit like what Duplo is to Lego comparing old to new. Kind of cartoonified.

Jamescrs

5,646 posts

85 months

Wednesday 19th November
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I think overall I prefer the new one but the lack of a He valve is missing one of the characteristics that makes the PO (and Seamaster 300) what they are which is disappointing.

I prefer the metal strap on the new versions, I like the taper but I think I prefer the rubber strap on the old PO I used to have.

Not keen on the back of the new version.

I do feel like the new ones are moving a little too closely to Rolex designs.

Cybertronian

1,542 posts

183 months

Wednesday 19th November
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I was invited by my local boutique last night to try them on.

As somebody with a slender 16cm wrist, the outgoing 39.5mm version has been the best fitting Planet Ocean, with the first gen 42mm being the next best.

Trying the new 42mm on, we could tell immediately that it was far too big for me.

The new angular, aggressive styling, and polished centre links on the bracelet - all of which I do like - also made it appear even larger. We joked that the new Planet Ocean looks like how the Ultra Deep appears on the wrist for everybody else! The new all matte dial is very nice and increases legibility dramatically over the outgoing ceramic dial.

Price increase is tough to swallow, as most of the change is visual, with some things being a backwards step - loss of date wheel, loss of exhibition case back. Loss of helium escape valve has divided opinion - personally mourn its loss. The movement I was told is a modified 8900, removing the date function.

I do hope they'll reprofile the watch at some point in this new generation, as the now current range of 300m Seamaster and Planet Ocean basically sizes out anybody with smaller wrists.

Edited by Cybertronian on Wednesday 19th November 14:45

Muzzer79

12,516 posts

207 months

Wednesday 19th November
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Doofus said:
Bezel's too thick, face is too small.
This

Bob_Defly

Original Poster:

5,070 posts

251 months

Wednesday 19th November
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Cybertronian said:
I was invited by my local boutique last night to try them on.

As somebody with a slender 16cm wrist, the outgoing 39.5mm version has been the best fitting Planet Ocean, with the first gen 42mm being the next best.

Trying the new 42mm on, we could tell immediately that it was far too big for me.

The new angular, aggressive styling, and polished centre links on the bracelet - all of which I do like - also made it appear even larger. We joked that the new Planet Ocean looks like how the Ultra Deep appears on the wrist for everybody else! The new all matte dial is very nice and increases legibility dramatically over the outgoing ceramic dial.

Price increase is tough to swallow, as most of the change is visual, with some things being a backwards step - loss of date wheel, loss of exhibition case back. Loss of helium escape valve has divided opinion - personally mourn its loss. The movement I was told is a modified 8900, removing the date function.

I do hope they'll reprofile the watch at some point in this new generation, as the now current range of 300m Seamaster and Planet Ocean basically sizes out anybody with smaller wrists.

Edited by Cybertronian on Wednesday 19th November 14:45
It's weird isn't it. By the numbers it should look smaller than the outgoing one, but it looks massive.

gregs656

11,960 posts

201 months

Wednesday 19th November
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Cybertronian said:
I was invited by my local boutique last night to try them on.

As somebody with a slender 16cm wrist, the outgoing 39.5mm version has been the best fitting Planet Ocean, with the first gen 42mm being the next best.

Trying the new 42mm on, we could tell immediately that it was far too big for me.

The new angular, aggressive styling, and polished centre links on the bracelet - all of which I do like - also made it appear even larger. We joked that the new Planet Ocean looks like how the Ultra Deep appears on the wrist for everybody else! The new all matte dial is very nice and increases legibility dramatically over the outgoing ceramic dial.

Price increase is tough to swallow, as most of the change is visual, with some things being a backwards step - loss of date wheel, loss of exhibition case back. Loss of helium escape valve has divided opinion - personally mourn its loss. The movement I was told is a modified 8900, removing the date function.

I do hope they'll reprofile the watch at some point in this new generation, as the now current range of 300m Seamaster and Planet Ocean basically sizes out anybody with smaller wrists.

Edited by Cybertronian on Wednesday 19th November 14:45
It does look like a mini ultra deep more than a new PO, to my eye anyway.

toon10

6,917 posts

177 months

Wednesday 19th November
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I don't really like the Planet Ocean but love the Seamaster 300 and own a Speedy. The new one isn't changing my mind on the PO. On one hand, I like that they have made some bold choices like removing the escape valve and changing the look and feel (apart from the hands.) On the other hand though, it looks too much like a Sub homage and the polished center links look wrong.

blue_haddock

4,715 posts

87 months

Wednesday 19th November
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I much prefer it to the old model.

That helium valve looked terrible and could only be compared to claudia schiffer having a giant pimple on the end of her nose!

The Gauge

5,760 posts

33 months

Wednesday 19th November
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blue_haddock said:
I much prefer it to the old model.

That helium valve looked terrible and could only be compared to claudia schiffer having a giant pimple on the end of her nose!
I'm the opposite, in fact I prefer the model previous before they introduced the ceramic bezel and sapphire case (which I why I bought one).
The new PO looks just like many other watches including Rolex, maybe that's their intention? Until now the PO had its own look and own identity, but now no longer, Sad frown

gregs656

11,960 posts

201 months

Wednesday 19th November
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The Gauge said:
I'm the opposite, in fact I prefer the model previous before they introduced the ceramic bezel and sapphire case (which I why I bought one).
The new PO looks just like many other watches including Rolex, maybe that's their intention? Until now the PO had its own look and own identity, but now no longer, Sad frown
I think the new one and the original one are both riffs on the original seamaster 300. It doesn’t look like a Rolex to me at all.

I do agree that the hev was a visual signature, but I also see it is quite similar to the SMP.

fflump

2,715 posts

58 months

Wednesday 19th November
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I really don’t like the drawn-on triangle on the bezel at 12 o’clock. Always looked like a cheap knockoff. The first ceramic bezel 42mm versions of the PO I really like but recent designs do nothing for me.

The Gauge

5,760 posts

33 months

Thursday 20th November
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Strange how the differences are only slight, but enough to completely ruin the look of what was a gorgeous looking watch (for me anyway).


NDA

23,974 posts

245 months

Thursday 20th November
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Bob_Defly said:
Slightly thinner, no He valve, more angular case, very simple case back, PCLs.

I don't like it, something seems off. The case back looks cheap, and the dial/bezel proportions look off for some reason. No date complication and still 13.7mm thick. Plus the clasp is super shiny. It just doesn't look like a tool watch anymore.
Totally agree. I have a PO 'Good Planet' GMT and am therefore very familiar with the look. The bezel and dial proportions on this new model are, as you say, are 'off'.

And I don't think it'll grow on me either! I remember when Breguet changed the Marine - the new one still looks awful to me.

catso

15,531 posts

287 months

Thursday 20th November
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Doofus said:
Bezel's too thick, face is too small.
Agreed, I wouldn't be too bothered about the missing He valve (what purpose doe it actually serve anyway?) but it just looks like a cheap copy, a fake IMO.

I'll stick with my Ti Planet ocean.

catso

15,531 posts

287 months

Thursday 20th November
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Plus, I don't like the 'futuristic' 6 and 9 characters . grumpy