would a Rolex shop keep my snide if I took it in?

would a Rolex shop keep my snide if I took it in?

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kingswood

Original Poster:

125 posts

83 months

Tuesday 4th June
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there's a few articles on this on the net but nothing to recent.

bought a genuine fake - love that term - from Egypt. Rolex submariner 2024. paid £90. got fitted in the shop and a nice fit. but as it was warm wrist was swelled up bit. now back in cold uk and its to big. so needs a link out.

was in Meadowhall and took it into beaver brooks or similar and asked to take a link out. would happily pay. got told they won't do it, need to go to Rolex shop.

so went in and asked if they could take a link out. they said everyone was busy but pop back in 30mins. tbf they were really polite etc. asked how much it would be and they said free. as above didn't want it for free, I'd happily pay.

when someone says 'free' to me I do more digging. so I'm online, as the wife's shops, and I come across the posts saying the Rolex AD will keep/smash/call the police if you present a fake.

as it goes I aired on the side of caution and will take it my local market to get done for £10.

told the story to a few (flash) lads in the gym will real ones etc and we had a good argument over it.

firstly, could they tell it was fake? I understand a repair centre could etc but to take a link out you won't see inside the watch?

second if it is fake its still mine? I could have unwittingly bought a fake. a stolen watch I could understand been kept - just like a stolen car etc - but its just a pretend Rolex?

like I said, either way I bottled it and didn't take it in!

Geertsen

882 posts

66 months

Tuesday 4th June
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I think an authorised dealer would know a £90 Rolex wasn’t real when taken off and handed to them. I’d imagine they’d just tell you they can’t work on it and hand it back to you. If it was a £500+ replica they may not realise and just change the link.

TownIdiot

1,621 posts

6 months

Tuesday 4th June
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Just buy a tiny screwdriver and do it yourself.

Geertsen

882 posts

66 months

Tuesday 4th June
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ps. If it were real then they’d do it for free because that’s part of the service when you buy a £8,000 watch. Pretty sure most luxury brands would.

RSTurboPaul

11,268 posts

265 months

Tuesday 4th June
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I recall this was discussed recently on here. IIRC there are no laws under which a dealer could relieve you of your property and destroy it - it is not illegal to own replica items in the UK.

Just go the the guy in the market and get it done for a tenner. No reason to go to a ££££ shop at all, that is just asking to create a potentially awkward situation unnecessarily. You could even buy the kit to do it yourself if you own a number of watches and purchase regularly - CousinsUK has some good kits for reasonable money.

Ninjin

1,236 posts

82 months

Wednesday 5th June
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Seeing this is a car forum with a watch sub forum, let's put this in car terms:

You have a MR2 based 355 replica.

You need wipers changing and decide to take it to Ferrari....

Don't forget to film it for YouTube... It'll make millions going viral.

bow

Jayho

2,177 posts

177 months

Wednesday 5th June
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Geertsen said:
I think an authorised dealer would know a £90 Rolex wasn’t real when taken off and handed to them. I’d imagine they’d just tell you they can’t work on it and hand it back to you. If it was a £500+ replica they may not realise and just change the link.
Most probably could tell as soon as you walk in / get a glimpse of it. One of my Local AD's for Tudor immediately spotted my Smiley ETA Black Bay Noir when I went in to look at a Tudor Ranger they had in the window. She commented on never having seen one in person before (they didn't start stocking Tudors until the in house movement version came out) and asked if she could have a look / hold of it.

The Gauge

3,205 posts

20 months

Wednesday 5th June
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Surely you'd just take it to the guy in the local market? After all it's not a Rolex, and for any other cheap watch you'd use that guy if not able to do yourself?


dom9

8,209 posts

216 months

Wednesday 5th June
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They won't confiscate it or anything like that (may be different in other countries) - they'd likely just tell you to FRO if it is an AD.

You can do it yourself. If you can lace your shoes, you can change a link or adjust the clasp (usually it doesn't need a whole link for warm/cold changes).

An AD would recognize a £90 fake, easily. A £500 fake and just seeing the front of house staff in a multi-brand shop - you may get away with it.

I'd be fascinated to see it. Bearing in mind £90 includes tourist tax, seller's mark-up, etc. it sounds like it probably doesn't bother 'replicating' things.

nuyorican

1,862 posts

109 months

Wednesday 5th June
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I don’t know much about watches, but intrigued by the term ‘genuine fake’.

What does it mean?

croyde

23,916 posts

237 months

Wednesday 5th June
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I bought a fake Tag in Thailand once. It kept better time and lasted longer than my genuine Tag biggrin

I think the fake becomes a problem in other countries and possibly if stopped by customs.

extraT

1,827 posts

157 months

Wednesday 5th June
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Yeah… don’t take it to a Rolex dealer…

Either get the little screwdriver to remove it yourself OR take it to an independent, be open honest and tell them it’s a great memory from a fantastic holiday that holds sentimental value.

Gastons_Revenge

275 posts

11 months

Wednesday 5th June
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Just buy the tool and do it yourself?

Mr Pointy

11,836 posts

166 months

Wednesday 5th June
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I'm sure there was a long thread over on TZ-UK where someone claimed a dealer had retained a watch taken for service & while I can't be sure it was because it was a fake I think that was the case.

Bernt Tuakrisp

104 posts

207 months

Wednesday 5th June
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I'm struggling to understand why you would take an obviously counterfeit product to an authorised dealer of the genuine product and ask them for help? It's like going to a police station to ask them to help hide a murder weapon. Rolex AD's look after Rolex buyers, even if the watch wasn't bought from them they'll offer you a seat and a drink and treat you well - adjusting straps for free is part of the whole deal.

Taking a link out of a bracelet is easy - its not like you'll be losing value if you accidentally scratch a link in your souk-special.

GCH

4,061 posts

209 months

Wednesday 5th June
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Geertsen said:
I think an authorised dealer would know a £90 Rolex wasn’t real when taken off and handed to them. I’d imagine they’d just tell you they can’t work on it and hand it back to you. If it was a £500+ replica they may not realise and just change the link.
And yet once when I was trying on something, the associate said the (very genuine) Reverso I was wearing was a great replica, and only fell short because it was quartz, and that they also never made one with the colour dial I have rolleyes. This place was, as well as lots of other brands, a JLC authorised dealer!

Also had a Louis Vuitton associate once say a (again, very genuine) bag was 'not made by us' when took it in after one of the rivets popped....took it to LV in a different major city a few days later and was fixed on the spot, for free, with a profuse apology.


Many dealers - or more accurately the workers there - don't know their stuff at all.

kingswood

Original Poster:

125 posts

83 months

Wednesday 5th June
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thanks for all the replies!

again at gym tonight the argument continued on the back of these responses!!

the genuine fakes are fantastic these days, visional its identical to a real. like I said some of the lads have real ones and you can't tell. same weight, same movement.

one lad said every piece of a Rolex is laser etched and these would be on the links and you can't see them with ur eye!?

its not my world as a)I'm to poor and b) to tight even if I had the money!!


hungry_hog

2,395 posts

195 months

Wednesday 5th June
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Sounds like a weird thought experiment - something you might get in a Philosophy paper on a PPE degree!

I would think they spot the fake in about 2 seconds and give you the watch back

kingswood

Original Poster:

125 posts

83 months

Wednesday 5th June
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weights in at 170gram with the sweeping movement.

granted not the best pic.

TownIdiot

1,621 posts

6 months

Wednesday 5th June
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Agree it's not a great pic but you can tell from a very quick glance.