Tell me about manual wind watches
Tell me about manual wind watches
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ChemicalChaos

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10,714 posts

190 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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Morning all,

Whilst at a jewellers yesterday I tried on an Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch, which I have desired for a long time. Everything was great, but the one thing that niggled was when he explained that a) it was manual wind, and b) it only lasted for about 42 hours. I can understand that it cannot be self winding due to zero gravity, but how come it lasts such a short time when most watches have an 8 day wind?

What is it like in general living with a watch you have to remember to keep winding? Is it a pain or do you get into a routine?

Before someone suggests it, im not that keen on the automatic version. The face is different and it is nearly £2k more expensive

Trev450

6,770 posts

202 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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I have two manual wind watches, one of which I've owned for 45 years. When I wear them on a daily basis I get into the routine od winding them every night, when I don't wear them regularly I just let them run down.

mikeveal

5,139 posts

280 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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ChemicalChaos said:
I can understand that it cannot be self winding due to zero gravity,
Apparently that's what NASA thought too. They were wrong.

ChemicalChaos said:
but how come it lasts such a short time when most watches have an 8 day wind?
Most modern mechanical watches have a power reserve of around 36 hours. Some a bit more, some a bit less. 48 hours is pretty good.

ChemicalChaos said:
What is it like in general living with a watch you have to remember to keep winding? Is it a pain or do you get into a routine?
No problem at all. Gives you a excuse to admire the watch.

You should be aware though that no one here will ever attempt to talk you out of a watch purchase. Not unless you're unwittingly buying utter crud and in this case, you're not.

Teocali

238 posts

217 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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mikeveal said:
You should be aware though that no one here will ever attempt to talk you out of a watch purchase. Not unless you're unwittingly buying utter crud and in this case, you're not.
On that basis....

I bought one around three years ago and I love the watch.

The self winding becomes a nice ritual and - at least to me - makes the watch feel more special.

You will be doing it every day but it soon becomes second nature.

Only criticisms I have are that they are (financially) a terrible buy new. Had I been less impulsive I would have bought second hand.

Also the whole watch marks very easily. I previously had a seiko that I took far less care of, but the Omega has picked up far more cosmetic damage. I expected this on the watch face, but have found the bracelet very easy to mark.

However I hardly ever remove the watch so this is probably to be expected.

ChemicalChaos

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190 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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That's another point actually, they mentioned it has a shatterproof but easier to scratch resin face rather than the usual sapphire glass one.

I wonder, if one bought a secondhand one had sent it for a service, could they swap it out or is it part of the watch case?

Fitz666

692 posts

172 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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That would be a hesalite crystal, which can be polished at service time.

GCH

4,141 posts

232 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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Fitz666 said:
That would be a hesalite crystal, which can be polished at service time.
Or polished yourself with a tube of polywatch

Variomatic

2,392 posts

191 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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Hand winding - not a problem and used to be the norm for most people until batteries came along. Far more manual wind watches used to be sold than autos. 42 hour reserve is plenty, wind each morning and you have enough reserve to take you to tea time the next day if you forget.

Hessalite / acrylic / "unbreakable" crystal - not a problem and used to be the norm from about the 1950s to the early 90s. FAR less likely to get cracked and, even if it doesm will stay in place and protect the dial rather than showering the hands, dial and movement with razor sharp fragments. Normal scratches polish out easily with Brasso (or Polywatch if you're posh) and deeper ones can usually be removed with careful use of wet dry followed by polishing.

IroningMan

10,598 posts

276 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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I have a couple of manual wind watches; one of these:



and a Smiths Astral:



personally I find the winding adds to the sense of occasion and since I seldom wear the same watch for more than a day or two at a time my automatics usually need to be shaken awake and then set every time I pick them up in any case.

GC8

19,910 posts

220 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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'8 Day' clock movement perhaps, but never in a watch.

GCH

4,141 posts

232 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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GC8 said:
'8 Day' clock movement perhaps, but never in a watch.
JLC do several watches with 8 day power reserves





anonymous-user

84 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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GC8 said:
'8 Day' clock movement perhaps, but never in a watch.
Plenty of watches with 8 day reserves, but I wouldn't say it was usual

andy tims

5,606 posts

276 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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desolate said:
Plenty of watches with 8 day reserves, but I wouldn't say it was usual
Nor cheap

GC8

19,910 posts

220 months

Thursday 10th March 2016
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Very unusual, very, very expensive and I believe, beyond the scope of Matt's budget. Of course, I might have misjudged and he may have been reading-up on JLC Master Eights, but I suspect that it was caused by a misunderstanding.

bobbybee

889 posts

184 months

Thursday 10th March 2016
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andy tims said:
desolate said:
Plenty of watches with 8 day reserves, but I wouldn't say it was usual
Nor cheap
Both true
IWC, Panerai, JLC, Blancpain, Baume & Mercier

lostkiwi

4,585 posts

154 months

Thursday 10th March 2016
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I actually prefer manual wind. In my mind its a purer form of mechanism with less to go wrong or be damaged.

marcosgt

11,504 posts

206 months

Thursday 10th March 2016
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lostkiwi said:
I actually prefer manual wind. In my mind its a purer form of mechanism with less to go wrong or be damaged.
I agree and the process of winding a watch is a little pleasure in itself, it takes, what, 30 seconds?

The Speedmaster Pro is a great watch. The Hesalite should be replaced when a watch is serviced (it's a dirt cheap part), but they will scratch, so you may even need to replace it between services (especially if you're not as rigorous in sticking to manufacturer's service intervals as they would like you to be! biggrin).

If you own another watch, chances are the Speedy will stop before you put it back on, but as it has no date, it's the work of seconds to set the right time and set it running again with a wind.

Most of my manual wind watches are 'vintage' (although that actually means I am too! smile ) and lovely things in their own way.

M

Marc p

1,124 posts

172 months

Thursday 10th March 2016
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I have one watch that is manual wind, lasts around 40 hours, give or take. If I was using it every day, it may start to annoy me as I would keep on forgetting to wind it, but it doesn't take much winding and as most of my watches have stopped(all but one are automatic) by the time I go to wear them again and I need to set the time again, it doesn't bother me in the slightest.

Murcielago_Boy

2,014 posts

269 months

Thursday 10th March 2016
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I have a manual wind Patek - winding it up every other day is part of the fun! It's a small detail in ownership but makes the watch feel more special.

GC8

19,910 posts

220 months

Friday 11th March 2016
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My most favouritist watch is a manually wound Rolex. As others have said, a daily wind is easy and an easily accommodated part of your routine. Only a heathen would leave their watch on all night, so it is difficult to forget too.