Has the Rolex bubble finally burst? Perhaps it has

Has the Rolex bubble finally burst? Perhaps it has

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CrippsCorner

2,878 posts

184 months

Friday 14th June
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Chris Stott said:
Speed Badger said:
Haha, yes I appreciate the humour! I honestly thought Rolexes were mega mega money. Like £20k-£30k plus for ordinary models. It wasn't until I was l looking for a 40th birthday present for myself that I considered a Submariner (as I very nearly became one once). I saw the prices were £9k - £10k for a Sub new from a dealer, I couldn't believe it. Then started reading all about how they were the Porsche 911 GT3 of the watch world.

I can walk into an Omega dealership and walk out with a near £10k watch, same with Breitling and any number of similar priced watch companies. If you want to buy a luxury watch you simply go in, try it on, then erm, buy a watch if you're happy. Not Rolex. They just make it so weird and laughable, from what I've read.
Nothing weird about it… there’s just more demand than supply.
Artificially though, surely?

I recently thought to myself why would I want a Rolex... it's because it's a Rolex, I don't actually particularly like the designs. I've kind of gone of Daytona's & Submariner's recently. Datejust & Day-Date are beautiful, but there's just other things I'd rather buy for the money.

The only one that really got me was the Milgauss, and still does to be honest.

If I was going to buy one with my own money these days (brand new) I actually think it'd be the Air-King you know, can't go wrong. Just wish there were a few options to play around with.

CrippsCorner

2,878 posts

184 months

Friday 14th June
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Thinking of the above though... if I was to walk into an AD and ask to buy an Air-King, would I also be laughed out the showroom, or would there be a chance of getting one relatively quickly? I've bought a couple of watches/jewellery but from different ADs and not of that value.

BigBen

11,699 posts

233 months

Friday 14th June
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CrippsCorner said:
Thinking of the above though... if I was to walk into an AD and ask to buy an Air-King, would I also be laughed out the showroom, or would there be a chance of getting one relatively quickly? I've bought a couple of watches/jewellery but from different ADs and not of that value.
I am pretty sure I could have walked out with one a month or so back but found it far too small for me so no joy.

InformationSuperHighway

6,212 posts

187 months

Friday 14th June
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BigBen said:
CrippsCorner said:
Thinking of the above though... if I was to walk into an AD and ask to buy an Air-King, would I also be laughed out the showroom, or would there be a chance of getting one relatively quickly? I've bought a couple of watches/jewellery but from different ADs and not of that value.
I am pretty sure I could have walked out with one a month or so back but found it far too small for me so no joy.
Interestingly (Personal pref of course) I find the Airking pretty hefty.

OP to your question, I believe the Airking is considered fairly easy to get and very entry level so to speak.

I got one after a couple of months wait and no buying history. the AD certainly made out it was an entry point for many into a larger Rolex collection (Of course they would say that).

Chris Stott

13,693 posts

200 months

Friday 14th June
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CrippsCorner said:
Chris Stott said:
Speed Badger said:
Haha, yes I appreciate the humour! I honestly thought Rolexes were mega mega money. Like £20k-£30k plus for ordinary models. It wasn't until I was l looking for a 40th birthday present for myself that I considered a Submariner (as I very nearly became one once). I saw the prices were £9k - £10k for a Sub new from a dealer, I couldn't believe it. Then started reading all about how they were the Porsche 911 GT3 of the watch world.

I can walk into an Omega dealership and walk out with a near £10k watch, same with Breitling and any number of similar priced watch companies. If you want to buy a luxury watch you simply go in, try it on, then erm, buy a watch if you're happy. Not Rolex. They just make it so weird and laughable, from what I've read.
Nothing weird about it… there’s just more demand than supply.
Artificially though, surely?

I recently thought to myself why would I want a Rolex... it's because it's a Rolex, I don't actually particularly like the designs. I've kind of gone of Daytona's & Submariner's recently. Datejust & Day-Date are beautiful, but there's just other things I'd rather buy for the money.

The only one that really got me was the Milgauss, and still does to be honest.

If I was going to buy one with my own money these days (brand new) I actually think it'd be the Air-King you know, can't go wrong. Just wish there were a few options to play around with.
How is it artificial? They sell every watch they produce.

They even built a new factory to increase supply.

Plenty of Airkings available at around retail if you really want one.

bordseye

1,992 posts

195 months

Friday 14th June
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raceboy said:
I'm guessing the same people that would buy a new Porsche Taycan. #buildingarelationship
People with no taste in other words.

bazza.

704 posts

95 months

Saturday 15th June
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Spot of Rolex polishing of late

https://youtu.be/reoYMwzOYjE?si=5kuTppdQvBUvhj5k






popeyewhite

20,334 posts

123 months

Saturday 15th June
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It's soul destroying how easily my oyster bracelet get scratched. Barely wear the thing now...but also because grey dial/silver hands can't read it!

Louis Balfour

26,734 posts

225 months

Saturday 15th June
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popeyewhite said:
It's soul destroying how easily my oyster bracelet get scratched. Barely wear the thing now...but also because grey dial/silver hands can't read it!
Time for a Sub date, Grandad.

popeyewhite

20,334 posts

123 months

Saturday 15th June
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Louis Balfour said:
popeyewhite said:
It's soul destroying how easily my oyster bracelet get scratched. Barely wear the thing now...but also because grey dial/silver hands can't read it!
Time for a Sub date, Grandad.
I'm getting a Patek. What's with the 'Grandad' thing?

bazza.

704 posts

95 months

Saturday 15th June
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We service and polish Patek also wink


popeyewhite

20,334 posts

123 months

Saturday 15th June
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That's lovely.

I'm firmly back in the leather strap/deployment clasp club now.
I'm aware it may sound pretentious but there's something more connected for me when I wear other than a metal bracelet, and I like that.

Louis Balfour

26,734 posts

225 months

Saturday 15th June
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popeyewhite said:
Louis Balfour said:
popeyewhite said:
It's soul destroying how easily my oyster bracelet get scratched. Barely wear the thing now...but also because grey dial/silver hands can't read it!
Time for a Sub date, Grandad.
I'm getting a Patek. What's with the 'Grandad' thing?
Which PP?

You've admitted before that you're getting on a bit and the presbyopia gives it away. The Sub date has always been handy for the ageing eye, due to the cyclops.

If you are going for a PP steel sports, will you see the date?


popeyewhite

20,334 posts

123 months

Saturday 15th June
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Louis Balfour said:
popeyewhite said:
Louis Balfour said:
popeyewhite said:
It's soul destroying how easily my oyster bracelet get scratched. Barely wear the thing now...but also because grey dial/silver hands can't read it!
Time for a Sub date, Grandad.
I'm getting a Patek. What's with the 'Grandad' thing?
Which PP?

You've admitted before that you're getting on a bit and the presbyopia gives it away. The Sub date has always been handy for the ageing eye, due to the cyclops.

If you are going for a PP steel sports, will you see the date?
The 5127G Calatrava is the one that's turned my head. My only foray into 'sports-ish' was a '23 DJ 36 last year but the bracelet wear combined with a hard to read dial means it gets zero wrist time. Yeah my eyes have been going since my forties but the combo of silver dial/silver hands is just plain impossible to read whereas the opaline/gold on my JLC is quite easy even without glasses.

SlimJim16v

5,820 posts

146 months

Saturday 15th June
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popeyewhite said:
It's soul destroying how easily my oyster bracelet get scratched. Barely wear the thing now...but also because grey dial/silver hands can't read it!
Get it brushed, it looks much better. I've done several myself.

Louis Balfour

26,734 posts

225 months

Saturday 15th June
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popeyewhite said:
Louis Balfour said:
popeyewhite said:
Louis Balfour said:
popeyewhite said:
It's soul destroying how easily my oyster bracelet get scratched. Barely wear the thing now...but also because grey dial/silver hands can't read it!
Time for a Sub date, Grandad.
I'm getting a Patek. What's with the 'Grandad' thing?
Which PP?

You've admitted before that you're getting on a bit and the presbyopia gives it away. The Sub date has always been handy for the ageing eye, due to the cyclops.

If you are going for a PP steel sports, will you see the date?
The 5127G Calatrava is the one that's turned my head. My only foray into 'sports-ish' was a '23 DJ 36 last year but the bracelet wear combined with a hard to read dial means it gets zero wrist time. Yeah my eyes have been going since my forties but the combo of silver dial/silver hands is just plain impossible to read whereas the opaline/gold on my JLC is quite easy even without glasses.
You have good taste, the 5127 is one of my favourite PPs. It's the crown guards and the rounded surfaces that I like. Though I would go for the J, because to me white gold watches look too similar to stainless. The R is pleasant, but I like yellow gold.

But, but, but it has a date. A date that, I am given to understand, doesn't like being changed too often. It will also, potentially, be a complication that you are unable to enjoy, due to your eyesight.

You could always have your eyesight sorted out, of course.





popeyewhite

20,334 posts

123 months

Saturday 15th June
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SlimJim16v said:
Get it brushed, it looks much better. I've done several myself.
A good idea, but the strap still will get damaged too easily. My fault for not considering that beforehand I know...

popeyewhite

20,334 posts

123 months

Saturday 15th June
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Louis Balfour said:
You have good taste, the 5127 is one of my favourite PPs. It's the crown guards and the rounded surfaces that I like. Though I would go for the J, because to me white gold watches look too similar to stainless. The R is pleasant, but I like yellow gold.
I agree, but the white gold is so under the radar it makes the most classy choice. The yellow gold is lovely though.

Louis Balfour said:
But, but, but it has a date. A date that, I am given to understand, doesn't like being changed too often. It will also, potentially, be a complication that you are unable to enjoy, due to your eyesight.
I think dates in general are unnecessary, and can't bear the gadgetry of sports watches, but each to their own. The later 5196J is dateless and slightly more slim I think, so there's always that.

Louis Balfour said:
You could always have your eyesight sorted out, of course.
I wasn't aware there was much I could do for age related hyperopia. Might look into it (oof).


Louis Balfour

26,734 posts

225 months

Sunday 16th June
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popeyewhite said:
Louis Balfour said:
You have good taste, the 5127 is one of my favourite PPs. It's the crown guards and the rounded surfaces that I like. Though I would go for the J, because to me white gold watches look too similar to stainless. The R is pleasant, but I like yellow gold.
I agree, but the white gold is so under the radar it makes the most classy choice. The yellow gold is lovely though.

Louis Balfour said:
But, but, but it has a date. A date that, I am given to understand, doesn't like being changed too often. It will also, potentially, be a complication that you are unable to enjoy, due to your eyesight.
I think dates in general are unnecessary, and can't bear the gadgetry of sports watches, but each to their own. The later 5196J is dateless and slightly more slim I think, so there's always that.

Louis Balfour said:
You could always have your eyesight sorted out, of course.
I wasn't aware there was much I could do for age related hyperopia. Might look into it (oof).
The 5196 I don't like, It's manual wind and I PREFER auto. The bezel is flat and not as pretty as the 5127 and the movement is an inappropriate size for the case.

WRT to your eyes: Refractive Lens Exchange. I had it done 10+ years ago and it was money well spent because I don't wear glasses anymore.

Wheelspinning

1,344 posts

33 months

Sunday 16th June
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popeyewhite said:
Louis Balfour said:
You have good taste, the 5127 is one of my favourite PPs. It's the crown guards and the rounded surfaces that I like. Though I would go for the J, because to me white gold watches look too similar to stainless. The R is pleasant, but I like yellow gold.
I agree, but the white gold is so under the radar it makes the most classy choice. The yellow gold is lovely though.

Louis Balfour said:
But, but, but it has a date. A date that, I am given to understand, doesn't like being changed too often. It will also, potentially, be a complication that you are unable to enjoy, due to your eyesight.
I think dates in general are unnecessary, and can't bear the gadgetry of sports watches, but each to their own. The later 5196J is dateless and slightly more slim I think, so there's always that.

Louis Balfour said:
You could always have your eyesight sorted out, of course.
I wasn't aware there was much I could do for age related hyperopia. Might look into it (oof).
Popeyewhite, it appears as though all of your opinions and prefrences are all wrong.banghead

Thankfully Louis Balfour is here to keep you right, not just on watches, but on medical advice also. woohoo


Edited by Wheelspinning on Sunday 16th June 11:28