Has the Rolex bubble finally burst? Perhaps it has

Has the Rolex bubble finally burst? Perhaps it has

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Familymad

741 posts

220 months

Thursday 13th June
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That made me laugh

Louis Balfour

26,782 posts

225 months

Thursday 13th June
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Speed Badger said:
Out of interest, if I walked into a Rolex boutique or a jewellers that sells Rolex and said, 'hello, I'd like to buy a new black dial Submariner date version please,' what response can I expect to be met with?
The answer SHOULD be:

"We would recommend that Sir seek out a pre-ceramic model second-hand, which will make him appear considerably more cool than one of the current models which are, and we really don't like to admit this Sir, just a little gauche"

dom9

8,128 posts

212 months

Thursday 13th June
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This ^

But to each his own! Horses for courses and all that!

MrJuice

3,485 posts

159 months

Thursday 13th June
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Yep, aluminium bezels for me all the way on subs, sea dwellers and GMTs

Much more sensible case proportions too

Wheelspinning

1,387 posts

33 months

Thursday 13th June
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Speed Badger said:
Out of interest, if I walked into a Rolex boutique or a jewellers that sells Rolex and said, 'hello, I'd like to buy a new black dial Submariner date version please,' what response can I expect to be met with?
You should pop in and ask; you never know, you might get one within a few weeks.

If you don't ask, you don't get...

Longy00000

1,410 posts

43 months

Thursday 13th June
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I never like the aluminium bezel and so never liked the sub. However I do like the new versions so only the newer models for me

Speed Badger

2,800 posts

120 months

Thursday 13th June
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Haha, yes I appreciate the humour! I honestly thought Rolexes were mega mega money. Like £20k-£30k plus for ordinary models. It wasn't until I was l looking for a 40th birthday present for myself that I considered a Submariner (as I very nearly became one once). I saw the prices were £9k - £10k for a Sub new from a dealer, I couldn't believe it. Then started reading all about how they were the Porsche 911 GT3 of the watch world.

I can walk into an Omega dealership and walk out with a near £10k watch, same with Breitling and any number of similar priced watch companies. If you want to buy a luxury watch you simply go in, try it on, then erm, buy a watch if you're happy. Not Rolex. They just make it so weird and laughable, from what I've read.

Buster73

5,097 posts

156 months

Thursday 13th June
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Longy00000 said:
I never like the aluminium bezel and so never liked the sub. However I do like the new versions so only the newer models for me
Have a 14060 non date sub of 2000 vintage , never tried a newer black ceramic version on , can’t imagine there being a massive difference to be fair .

Louis Balfour

26,782 posts

225 months

Thursday 13th June
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Buster73 said:
Longy00000 said:
I never like the aluminium bezel and so never liked the sub. However I do like the new versions so only the newer models for me
Have a 14060 non date sub of 2000 vintage , never tried a newer black ceramic version on , can’t imagine there being a massive difference to be fair .
There is.

The ceramics have bigger lugs and a ceramic bezel. IMHO yours looks better.

Chris Stott

13,719 posts

200 months

Thursday 13th June
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Speed Badger said:
Haha, yes I appreciate the humour! I honestly thought Rolexes were mega mega money. Like £20k-£30k plus for ordinary models. It wasn't until I was l looking for a 40th birthday present for myself that I considered a Submariner (as I very nearly became one once). I saw the prices were £9k - £10k for a Sub new from a dealer, I couldn't believe it. Then started reading all about how they were the Porsche 911 GT3 of the watch world.

I can walk into an Omega dealership and walk out with a near £10k watch, same with Breitling and any number of similar priced watch companies. If you want to buy a luxury watch you simply go in, try it on, then erm, buy a watch if you're happy. Not Rolex. They just make it so weird and laughable, from what I've read.
Nothing weird about it… there’s just more demand than supply.

Wheelspinning

1,387 posts

33 months

Thursday 13th June
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Buster73 said:
Longy00000 said:
I never like the aluminium bezel and so never liked the sub. However I do like the new versions so only the newer models for me
Have a 14060 non date sub of 2000 vintage , never tried a newer black ceramic version on , can’t imagine there being a massive difference to be fair .
Exactly this.

If you have an old design and it has sentimental value, fair enough.

I'm pretty sure that most on here would snap up a brand new sub date at list if they were offered one with no consideration whatsoever to the material the bezel is made from.



Longy00000

1,410 posts

43 months

Thursday 13th June
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Off topic now...apologies...but I'm really starting to like the bezel on the yacht master now. Its def growing on me.


Legacywr

12,392 posts

191 months

Thursday 13th June
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Very nice watch.

MrJuice

3,485 posts

159 months

Thursday 13th June
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Wheelspinning said:
Exactly this.

If you have an old design and it has sentimental value, fair enough.

I'm pretty sure that most on here would snap up a brand new sub date at list if they were offered one with no consideration whatsoever to the material the bezel is made from.
I have a 16610lv and a 116610lv

Remember the hulk was a watch no one wanted a year or two after release. I bought mine at 20% off from an AD in the UK in sept 2012.

It's only Instagram that's made it popular

I'd have the 16610lv over the hulk every single time.

Familymad

741 posts

220 months

Thursday 13th June
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Longy00000 said:
Off topic now...apologies...but I'm really starting to like the bezel on the yacht master now. Its def growing on me.

Assume they are not too popular as I was offererd one this week?

Edited by Familymad on Thursday 13th June 22:04

InformationSuperHighway

6,218 posts

187 months

Thursday 13th June
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Familymad said:
Longy00000 said:
Off topic now...apologies...but I'm really starting to like the bezel on the yacht master now. Its def growing on me.

Assume they are not too popular as I was offererd one this week?

Edited by Familymad on Thursday 13th June 22:04
I think the precious metal versions of the watches that also come in SS are fairly easy to get (And below list on the grey market) as far as I can see out there. Bi-metal sub is another example.



Longy00000

1,410 posts

43 months

Thursday 13th June
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I think it's just a case of all the full gold varieties, in that the immediate second hand values are lower than the list, so common sense says buy on the grey market and save several thousand quid.
Not sure who buys the full gold models from an AD at full retail these days.
Still a nice watch and certainly on my radar if I get permission from the boss but I need her blessing for a new motorcycle firstsmile

NDA

21,816 posts

228 months

Friday 14th June
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Longy00000 said:
Off topic now...apologies...but I'm really starting to like the bezel on the yacht master now. Its def growing on me.

I bought a "parnis' which is a fairly accurate replica as I was thinking of buying the real thing - it's a lovely looking watch, but I found it a bit small.

raceboy

13,166 posts

283 months

Friday 14th June
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Longy00000 said:
Not sure who buys the full gold models from an AD at full retail these days.
I'm guessing the same people that would buy a new Porsche Taycan. #buildingarelationship

Geertsen

798 posts

62 months

Friday 14th June
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Chris Stott said:
Speed Badger said:
Haha, yes I appreciate the humour! I honestly thought Rolexes were mega mega money. Like £20k-£30k plus for ordinary models. It wasn't until I was l looking for a 40th birthday present for myself that I considered a Submariner (as I very nearly became one once). I saw the prices were £9k - £10k for a Sub new from a dealer, I couldn't believe it. Then started reading all about how they were the Porsche 911 GT3 of the watch world.

I can walk into an Omega dealership and walk out with a near £10k watch, same with Breitling and any number of similar priced watch companies. If you want to buy a luxury watch you simply go in, try it on, then erm, buy a watch if you're happy. Not Rolex. They just make it so weird and laughable, from what I've read.
Nothing weird about it… there’s just more demand than supply.
Apparently wink