F150 lightning or Dodge ram srt10

F150 lightning or Dodge ram srt10

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Eclipsar

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112 posts

257 months

Friday 15th April 2011
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Hi
I am thinking of buying a f150 lightning or a dodge ram srt10, I like the price of the f150 compared to the srt10, but I adore the look of the srt10. I have a few question like what road tax are they, along what sort of mpg do they get on a run, I know it all depends on speed but just some idea, any idea of the weights of them, also I see some of f150 are in kilometres does this make any difference to the road tax or spec, any helpful advise much appreciated.
Also sorry if this does not read well as it's done on a phone
Regards
Chris

Roo

11,503 posts

212 months

Friday 15th April 2011
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Eclipsar said:
Hi
I am thinking of buying a f150 lightning or a dodge ram srt10, I like the price of the f150 compared to the srt10, but I adore the look of the srt10. I have a few question like what road tax are they, along what sort of mpg do they get on a run, I know it all depends on speed but just some idea, any idea of the weights of them, also I see some of f150 are in kilometres does this make any difference to the road tax or spec, any helpful advise much appreciated.
Also sorry if this does not read well as it's done on a phone
Regards
Chris
They're all taxed as either LGV or PLG which is £205 or £215 a year respectively for road tax.

Lightning will do mid teens as an average, SRT-10 slightly lower.

This a comparison for noth trucks but in US gallons so you need to multiply the figure by 1.2 to get UK MPG.


SOme trucks have odometers in kilometers as opposed to miles as they came from Canada instead of America but there's no real difference between them.

LuS1fer

41,501 posts

250 months

Friday 15th April 2011
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I think the Dodge looks a million times tougher. The Ford looks bland, even in Lightning guise though it is infinitely more tunable.

HD Adam

5,155 posts

189 months

Friday 15th April 2011
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Roo said:
They're all taxed as either LGV or PLG which is £205 or £215 a year respectively for road tax.

Lightning will do mid teens as an average, SRT-10 slightly lower.

This a comparison for noth trucks but in US gallons so you need to multiply the figure by 1.2 to get UK MPG.


SOme trucks have odometers in kilometers as opposed to miles as they came from Canada instead of America but there's no real difference between them.
I think you will find that the SRT10 will struggle to get double figures on MPG.

You should be able to get 18-20 mpg from a Lightning.

Plus, SRT10's are slow biggrin

Roo

11,503 posts

212 months

Friday 15th April 2011
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Generally speaking I'm not a fan of regular cab pick ups and if the choice was purely between a Lightning and SRT-10 quad cab I'd go for the Ram.

However, I'm sure they make super groovy quad cab 150 with a supercharger. Can't remember what it's called though or if it's any good. wink

shovelheadrob

1,564 posts

176 months

Friday 15th April 2011
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Had to make this decision myself a while back, I have always been a Mopar man, so it was already weighted toward the SRT10. But I also tend to have my vehicles LPG converted as I do a reasonable mileage & the SRT10's have been known to drop valves on gas, so when I found a late supercharged F150 already gassed I went for the Ford route. It is about 50bhp down on the Dodge but with a little massaging that should soon be remedied.Another thing to consider is that all the early SRT10s are stick shift so a bit of work around town. As Roo said it really depends what cab you want & ultimately how much you want to spend!

JRM Rossi

703 posts

194 months

Friday 15th April 2011
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I drove a srt 10 back from scotland to colchester area for a customer I got better fuel consumption in the srt 10 than the rumble bee i went up in both trucks were sat @ 70mph for the whole trip except in 30/40 limits the srt gets my vote

john3883

211 posts

174 months

Friday 15th April 2011
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Yeah the SRT 10 looks better but gas milage is lacking plus you would save bit more $$ on getting a lighting if money is an object. Plus with certain mods with the lighting you can get that supercharger to really whine. I love the sound of a supercharger plus exhaust sound of a v8. Just make sure to get a safe reputable tuner for remap if you up the boost.

Dr-Bob

6,629 posts

265 months

Saturday 16th April 2011
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Supercharged V8 or NA V10 and you worry about fuel LOL!!!!!!! Just kidding with ya...
All SRT-10 regular cabs are manual ALL crew cabs are auto...


SVTRick

3,633 posts

200 months

Sunday 17th April 2011
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Both these trucks are great fun and good value, if I had space I would buy a SRT10 as well.
Like for like there is not much between them on performance and grunt however the Lighting will have the edge on handling and hooking up from the lights.

Very easy to carry out some basic mods on a Lighting which would leave the SRT10 for dust
suspension mods are easy to take care of the extra power.




teammototech

28 posts

168 months

Sunday 17th April 2011
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Hi

I am allso a newish Lightning owner cannot comment on the Dodge but in my truck around town (Milton Keynes) struggle to get over double figures if I drive realy slow off boost maybe 12-15 if I hit the noisey button it averages 7ish.

But i love it, makes me grin and gets admiring looks every were it goes except from Thames Valley finest.

But the brakes are shocking, f------g useless border line dangerous ity takes very little spirited use before they fade and warp and chatter through the brake pedal. Even go faster pads and disks dont help much. The chassis well is er interesting mine has had Eibach shocks and springs but still its er interesting, but its a two tonne truck not a M3.

In the distant future wil be fitting a Prins LPG system as heard good things about them as they have the auto lube system for the valves this should cost in the region of 2k fitted, will try and get it on a dyno before and after to see the effect as I belive the fuelling isnt brilliant with pod filter and pipe it has fitted.

Oh and ditch the stock Goodyear tires as they are made from granite and spin everywere!

Pvapour

8,981 posts

258 months

Sunday 17th April 2011
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had both, lightning with some pulley mods was way more fun, agile, sounded better.

RT was awsome but only on the motorway, mpg (though not really a consideration) was ridiculous, 8-12mpg at best eek 150mph with two Harley Davidsons on the back though biggrin surprised a Maserati hehe fastest the bikes ever went to smile

Eclipsar

Original Poster:

112 posts

257 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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Thanks everyone for the information, think I am leaning towards a F150, out of interest is there much difference between the year

irish boy

3,604 posts

241 months

Saturday 7th May 2011
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try get an 03 or 04 as they have more threads on the spark plugs to stop them popping out. this happened me and was a serious pain.

also had manual and auto srt-10's....road presence and wow factor is in another league but i'd say the lightning is almost as quick. Also easier handled on our small roads.

All in all i'd say lightning for daily use manual ram for weekends.

Pvapour

8,981 posts

258 months

Saturday 7th May 2011
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another valid point which was a right royal pain, the lightning can go through a normal MOT station, the SRT would not and we had to use comercial mot station which were not on every street corner where we were + tend to be more heavily booked.

weird, we're now looking at an F150 again, maybe the later F150 though, the chipped diesels are almost as quick apparently.

V10 BAT

1,718 posts

239 months

Sunday 8th May 2011
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Yeah heard that the other day, i think the limit was 3 ton.
And the lightning is just under that.

Not been in an srt but from what i saw of one on the m1
they seem to handle real well,must have been doing one forty in some of the twisty bits yikes
I love the blower whine so would have to be the ford .biggrin

BLUETHUNDER

7,881 posts

265 months

Sunday 8th May 2011
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SVTRick said:
Both these trucks are great fun and good value, if I had space I would buy a SRT10 as well.
Like for like there is not much between them on performance and grunt however the Lighting will have the edge on handling and hooking up from the lights.

Very easy to carry out some basic mods on a Lighting which would leave the SRT10 for dust
suspension mods are easy to take care of the extra power.
A Lightning leaving a Ram for dust eh........




........hehe

powerstroke

10,283 posts

165 months

Sunday 8th May 2011
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Pvapour said:
another valid point which was a right royal pain, the lightning can go through a normal MOT station, the SRT would not and we had to use comercial mot station which were not on every street corner where we were + tend to be more heavily booked.

weird, we're now looking at an F150 again, maybe the later F150 though, the chipped diesels are almost as quick apparently.
No not a comercial VOSA test station just a normal garage that has a bigger ramp and does class 7 which includes the bigger panel vans like sprinters so there isnt much of an issue...

HD Adam

5,155 posts

189 months

Sunday 8th May 2011
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BLUETHUNDER said:
SVTRick said:
Both these trucks are great fun and good value, if I had space I would buy a SRT10 as well.
Like for like there is not much between them on performance and grunt however the Lighting will have the edge on handling and hooking up from the lights.

Very easy to carry out some basic mods on a Lighting which would leave the SRT10 for dust
suspension mods are easy to take care of the extra power.
A Lightning leaving a Ram for dust eh........




........hehe
Strange dyno chart.

You'll notice it was done in 3rd gear, which will skew the readings as you get a torque multiplication effect.
Dyno runs should be in a gear that gives a 1:1 ratio.

Regardless, any engine, Dodge, Ford, Chevy can be tuned.

If you know the owner of this truck, ask him/her if they will attend Gary's Picnic at the end of the month and race.
In all my years of racing at the American events, I have never seen an SRT10 at the track and would love to race one.

There's always lots of smack talk but nobody ever shows apart from the Fords.

SRT10 owners, let's be 'aving you biggrin

HD Adam

5,155 posts

189 months

Sunday 8th May 2011
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Ok

I've thrown out a challenge in the Vipers forum.

Hopefully there's a few SRT10 owners there who are up for it.

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?h=0...