NRE TV.. The Stallone Vette....

NRE TV.. The Stallone Vette....

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FM

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5,816 posts

225 months

Friday 12th November 2010
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A little tune up from Nelson Racing Engines that enthrall during the test drive. An awesome sound from that big block...

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCDuLW4aNWY




Matt Harper

6,723 posts

206 months

Saturday 13th November 2010
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I really don't get any of that. NRE have a strong reputation, by why film that piece out the back , with a crap-filled dumpster as the back drop.
Personally, I think that car is a nasty minger - naff, badly modified (bodywork) and an awful 'disco' chest-wig image.
No thanks.

LuS1fer

41,489 posts

250 months

Sunday 14th November 2010
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Matt Harper said:
I really don't get any of that. NRE have a strong reputation, by why film that piece out the back , with a crap-filled dumpster as the back drop.
Personally, I think that car is a nasty minger - naff, badly modified (bodywork) and an awful 'disco' chest-wig image.
No thanks.
You're right, you don't get it. I love it. While that image may have been true once, I don't think it's true any more, the car is a cult classic and anyone not stirred by that engine soundtrack is dead.

What I don't get is the missing door mirror and how anyone can drive with a computer in front of them and not get hauled in by the LAPD (or wherever they are).

roscobbc

3,575 posts

247 months

Sunday 14th November 2010
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Very 'traditional' car with a few 'modern' & 'hi-tech' additions like the high back seats, billet wheels, steering wheel etc - nice soundtrack (on someone elses car!) too noisy for geral use - never liked the rectangular fixed headlights - why change one of the unique Vette features like flip-up headlights?

Matt Harper

6,723 posts

206 months

Sunday 14th November 2010
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LuS1fer said:
the car is a cult classic and anyone not stirred by that engine soundtrack is dead.
What nonsense. Although it makes the right kind of noise (but that must be of secondary importance - who buys a car based soley on the noise it makes?) it's offensively loud to drive on the street and to me, just looks like a nasty, single moulding knock-off of a reasonably OK, but highly flawed original.
It has similar cult status to the original Viper - i.e. none. Anyone with even a vestigal amount of class and auto-cultural awareness would feel a right prat rumbling around in that thing.

Procharmo

61 posts

186 months

Sunday 14th November 2010
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Firstly the snobbish attitude stinks.....They were tuning a car, not replacing door mirrors or filming with beautiful back drops.. Secondly when you have a BBC between 8 and 10 litres in a 1970's muscle car why would you want it quiet? I guess only if you don't have an aircraft hanger ofther cars to choose from...Stop hating...!

This video did a good job of showing some of the lap top EFI tuning that takes place when modifying engines.. It's a good insight....

I thought this forum was for "gearheads" as opposed to "you don't live in the right area" or your car is too loud" type guys.....

I guess you must cringe when Underground racing come along with their 1750hp TT F430's and Gallardo's LOL!!!

FM Thanks for posting it..

stackofire

343 posts

200 months

Sunday 14th November 2010
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Matt Harper said:
who buys a car based soley on the noise it makes?
I did smile First time I heard my (future) car I had to have it. And till this day I haven't heard anything sounding as good.

Matt Harper said:
Anyone with even a vestigal amount of class and auto-cultural awareness would feel a right prat rumbling around in that thing.
Totally disagree... but hey, whatever floats your boat...

Procharmo

61 posts

186 months

Sunday 14th November 2010
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Your right...that "class thing" quickly wears out when your in Knights bridge or Monaco and everybody has a fast, quiteish, modern car.

Next thing you'll be saying why do you want 2000hp in a street car!!!

2000hp 1st gen Camaro

LuS1fer

41,489 posts

250 months

Sunday 14th November 2010
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Matt Harper said:
LuS1fer said:
the car is a cult classic and anyone not stirred by that engine soundtrack is dead.
What nonsense. Although it makes the right kind of noise (but that must be of secondary importance - who buys a car based soley on the noise it makes?) it's offensively loud to drive on the street and to me, just looks like a nasty, single moulding knock-off of a reasonably OK, but highly flawed original.
It has similar cult status to the original Viper - i.e. none. Anyone with even a vestigal amount of class and auto-cultural awareness would feel a right prat rumbling around in that thing.
That's the bigest load of b*ll*cks I've ever read. Thanks.
Anyway, you mentioned class and have a 300C in your profile....am I missing something?

Matt Harper

6,723 posts

206 months

Monday 15th November 2010
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Procharmo said:
I thought this forum was for "gearheads" as opposed to "you don't live in the right area" or your car is too loud" type guys.....
What in God's name are you on about?

Matt Harper

6,723 posts

206 months

Monday 15th November 2010
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LuS1fer said:
That's the bigest load of b*ll*cks I've ever read. Thanks.
Anyway, you mentioned class and have a 300C in your profile....am I missing something?
I never said that I have any class.


Procharmo

61 posts

186 months

Monday 15th November 2010
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Matt Harper said:
Procharmo said:
I thought this forum was for "gearheads" as opposed to "you don't live in the right area" or "your car is too loud" type guys.....
What in God's name are you on about?
I'm on about comments made earlier in the thread. Read it and you may get my blunt yet hopefully amusing comment.

Matt Harper

6,723 posts

206 months

Monday 15th November 2010
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I read it - and then re-read it and am still confused. I don't see anything snobbish - just some (opposing) opinions.
Remember - the video is a promotional piece, produced by NRE. Shooting it behind an industrial unit, with a dumpster full of garbage in the shot makes the whole thing appear cheap.
Already stated, driving around, while cradling a lap-top and talking to the camera, instead of watching where he was going was a little less than professional too.
Finally - and I'm no saint myself, you understand, thundering around surface streets, apparently disregarding city speed limits - and filming yourself doing the same, comes across as a bit dumb really. All this from a company that routinely charges $25-35k for a big-block motor could cause some people to doubt their credibility/professionalism.

Re the car - my comments are just my personal opinion. Nothing wrong with massive horsepower on the street, but I think it's just a 'parody' car and a poor one at that. The wheels suck ass, the steering wheel is a piece of junk and the exaggerated L88 hood and horribly mutilated front end make it look just what I'd expect a washed-up Hollywood Guido to own. The only nice part of the car is the rear facia, which looks unmolested - and the ultra stout motor - but the comedy noise would just become downright irritating after a while.

I had a C5 Corvette with a Magnaflow, which sounded great on WOT launches and kick-downs, but the constant loud droning got old, quick. My current Chrysler hemi has a Zoomer cat-back and makes a strong bellow when I get on it, but is not offensive all the time - I think that NRE Vette is.

Now - where it a race car, then that would be a whole different deal - but it isn't, so (in my view) it isn't.


LuS1fer

41,489 posts

250 months

Tuesday 16th November 2010
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I'll bet Sly is gutted now he's read that.

chevy-stu

5,392 posts

233 months

Tuesday 16th November 2010
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I think the car's great... Not my personal taste, but still appreciate what it's about..

NRE do some fantastic work with their twin turbo set-ups. I think the whole point about their DIY vids is to emphasise they are real enthusiasts that know their stuff, filming as they go to record and show the results. They are not a professional production company making high dollar adverts, I know what I'd prefer to see.

Matt Harper

6,723 posts

206 months

Tuesday 16th November 2010
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Fair point - though I wasn't suggesting high-end production values - just something that better reflects their expertise.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zr1CSW9daJM

I think this does a much better job - and manages to do so without any Hollywood glitz. Aside from the wheels, I think this car is totally stunning and epitomizes all that is great about NRE - a normally aspitrated big block, with a mountain of performance in a beautiful car that you can use daily without rattling your fillings out - or have people pointing at you and laughing.

roscobbc

3,575 posts

247 months

Tuesday 16th November 2010
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Quote: Remember - the video is a promotional piece, produced by NRE. Shooting it behind an industrial unit, with a dumpster full of garbage in the shot makes the whole thing appear cheap.
Reply: I only saw a car - wasn't interested in the background.

Quote: Already stated, driving around, while cradling a lap-top and talking to the camera, instead of watching where he was going was a little less than professional too.
Finally - and I'm no saint myself, you understand, thundering around surface streets, apparently disregarding city speed limits - and filming yourself doing the same, comes across as a bit dumb really.
Reply: The guy wasn't actually 'gunning' the car at any point was he? - in fact he driving like a bit of a pussy!

Quote: The wheels suck ass, the steering wheel is a piece of junk.
Reply: Not my personal choice either - but who cares!

Quote: I had a C5 Corvette with a Magnaflow, which sounded great on WOT launches and kick-downs, but the constant loud droning got old, quick.
Quote: Too many people choose the wrong type of exhausts on C5/C6's - carefull selection of muffler and tube diameter etc would minimise any droning effect - although difficult on a low stall speed automatic.




Procharmo

61 posts

186 months

Friday 19th November 2010
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Matt Harper said:
I read it - and then re-read it and am still confused. I don't see anything snobbish - just some (opposing) opinions.
Remember - the video is a promotional piece, produced by NRE. Shooting it behind an industrial unit, with a dumpster full of garbage in the shot makes the whole thing appear cheap.
Already stated, driving around, while cradling a lap-top and talking to the camera, instead of watching where he was going was a little less than professional too.
Finally - and I'm no saint myself, you understand, thundering around surface streets, apparently disregarding city speed limits - and filming yourself doing the same, comes across as a bit dumb really. All this from a company that routinely charges $25-35k for a big-block motor could cause some people to doubt their credibility/professionalism.

Re the car - my comments are just my personal opinion. Nothing wrong with massive horsepower on the street, but I think it's just a 'parody' car and a poor one at that. The wheels suck ass, the steering wheel is a piece of junk and the exaggerated L88 hood and horribly mutilated front end make it look just what I'd expect a washed-up Hollywood Guido to own. The only nice part of the car is the rear facia, which looks unmolested - and the ultra stout motor - but the comedy noise would just become downright irritating after a while.

I had a C5 Corvette with a Magnaflow, which sounded great on WOT launches and kick-downs, but the constant loud droning got old, quick. My current Chrysler hemi has a Zoomer cat-back and makes a strong bellow when I get on it, but is not offensive all the time - I think that NRE Vette is.

Now - where it a race car, then that would be a whole different deal - but it isn't, so (in my view) it isn't.

Good answer, it goes some way towards explaining your standpoint. Remember most of the sound you hear is just down to exhaust/muffler choice...A muted (Reserved racy sound) and a balls out (open header dragster sound) can be had on the same car/engine via electronic cut out valves..

What many are missing with most of NRE's creations and some other Procharged and Turbo builds (NER New Era Racecraft and LMR Late Model Raceraft) is that 1000hp to 2000hp street cars (which can be quiet or loud) are only possible due to the American aftermarket industry...
This is before we even look at Hennessey and Underground Racing with their 800 - 1800hp Lambo's, Ferraris and Ford GT 40's!!!!!!

It's a shame the UK enthusiasts are so so conservative. Any mention of something wild is dismissed as "too much" even when it comes in a stock appearing guise!!

In my opinion the good taste alarm lights up when gold plated or chrome Ferraris appear.