What about this gen 4 camaro, its a v8 this time.

What about this gen 4 camaro, its a v8 this time.

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BlueMR2

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8,690 posts

207 months

Thursday 12th August 2010
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I know the optispark can go dodgy but anything else?

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2010...

Cheers

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

195 months

Thursday 12th August 2010
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I'd just check the car as a whole really.

Make sure the auto box is smooth and doesn't clonk. Check for clonks from the rear (these cars can bust the 10 bolt axles). Make sure the electric windows work if it has them, air con. Leaky T-Tops, exhaust condition.

ringram

14,700 posts

253 months

Thursday 12th August 2010
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Engine is pretty solid apart from the opti, which is an arse, but there are solutions for that.
Trans is also pretty good in general. Brakes suck on that model.

LuS1fer

41,487 posts

250 months

Thursday 12th August 2010
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Brakes easily remedied with decent pads like Hawk performance pads.

300bhp/ton

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195 months

Thursday 12th August 2010
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LuS1fer said:
Brakes easily remedied with decent pads like Hawk performance pads.
Although doesn't the LT1's have different brakes to the LS1's. I know the rears are, not sure on the fronts.

I would agree that a pad/disc change can make a huge difference. I swapped on some EBC discs and Yellowstuff pads on mine and it's a night and day difference.

BlueMR2

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Thursday 12th August 2010
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Thanks for that, i oticed this one as well although i think the reserve will e more than i can afford. I think this one has an LS1 V8 though. Seems more like a trade sale though?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&am...

300bhp/ton

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195 months

Thursday 12th August 2010
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BlueMR2 said:
Thanks for that, i oticed this one as well although i think the reserve will e more than i can afford. I think this one has an LS1 V8 though. Seems more like a trade sale though?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&am...
Yep that's got the latter engine in. Fair bit more HP, but the older LT1 is still good imo.

LuS1fer

41,487 posts

250 months

Thursday 12th August 2010
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BlueMR2 said:
Thanks for that, i oticed this one as well although i think the reserve will e more than i can afford. I think this one has an LS1 V8 though. Seems more like a trade sale though?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&am...
How f***ing lazy have you got to be to offer no description and chuck up sh*t photos. Tends to point to how the car's been maintained????

ringram

14,700 posts

253 months

Thursday 12th August 2010
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300bhp/ton said:
LuS1fer said:
Brakes easily remedied with decent pads like Hawk performance pads.
Although doesn't the LT1's have different brakes to the LS1's. I know the rears are, not sure on the fronts.

I would agree that a pad/disc change can make a huge difference. I swapped on some EBC discs and Yellowstuff pads on mine and it's a night and day difference.
Correct LT1 has smaller brakes. I upgraded mine to the LSx brakes, needed new suspension knuckles as well. I just did the fronts. I think the rears might have been the same actually...

BlueMR2

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Thursday 12th August 2010
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LuS1fer said:
BlueMR2 said:
Thanks for that, i oticed this one as well although i think the reserve will e more than i can afford. I think this one has an LS1 V8 though. Seems more like a trade sale though?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&am...
How f***ing lazy have you got to be to offer no description and chuck up sh*t photos. Tends to point to how the car's been maintained????
Where its parked looks a bit traderish to me, but it says baby forces sale.

It will come with 12 months mot when sold but no tax, dvla says it is taxed until the end of october. I asked about the history, why the gearbox needed a rebuild and how long they have owned it for but no reply yet.

With an LS1 better brakes, electric leather seats etc it does have a much nicer spec, not sure if i can afford it as i don't know the reserve yet but based on the BIN price it will probably be more than i can afford.
I may up my bid a little if i like the answers when/if i like them as viewing before auction end wont happen unless i take a cash amount with me to make an offer.

I may ring about the other one later but the LT1 and only part service history concern me somewhat. I'm not paying 37.5 p a minute to callthe phonesae number thing during the day.

The V6 i posted about is sold now as well. He got my message about it after it sold frown.

BlueMR2

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Thursday 12th August 2010
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ringram said:
300bhp/ton said:
LuS1fer said:
Brakes easily remedied with decent pads like Hawk performance pads.
Although doesn't the LT1's have different brakes to the LS1's. I know the rears are, not sure on the fronts.

I would agree that a pad/disc change can make a huge difference. I swapped on some EBC discs and Yellowstuff pads on mine and it's a night and day difference.
Correct LT1 has smaller brakes. I upgraded mine to the LSx brakes, needed new suspension knuckles as well. I just did the fronts. I think the rears might have been the same actually...
I think maudyz28 on a few forums who i have met at the leeds cruise has some 2 pot front brake calipers for sale and possibly the spindle things as well.

BlueMR2

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Friday 13th August 2010
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BlueMR2 said:
I know the optispark can go dodgy but anything else?

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2010...

Cheers
I think this is on piston heads classifieds for £2.5k. Good value?

All the cars seem to be miles away. 450+ mile round trip.

Need to check what history it has.

IROC-Z

538 posts

196 months

Friday 13th August 2010
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BlueMR2 said:
BlueMR2 said:
I know the optispark can go dodgy but anything else?

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2010...

Cheers
I think this is on piston heads classifieds for £2.5k. Good value?

All the cars seem to be miles away. 450+ mile round trip.

Need to check what history it has.
Don't quote me on this but that strikes me as a little bit cheap? Might be worth asking them some probing questions.

I did a 400 mile trip to get my first Camaro and I didn't even bring it back with me, I agreed to buy it and went back with the money on the train a week later. A lot of it was to do with the fact that I wasn't that sure if I was going to like it, but once I heard it running I had to have it.

BlueMR2

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Friday 13th August 2010
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I've sent them an email from at and ph but no reply yet.

It was originally up at £3.5K on auto trader but is £3K on there still.

The one that age that needed a new optispark unit went for just over £2k although it was a starting problem but did run, as i expected it needed a new optispark unit although the seller thought it wasn't when i spoke to them. I read about it needing one straight after on another forum though.

OM1NOUS

17 posts

169 months

Friday 13th August 2010
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If you plan to buy an LT1 car as stated the opti spark is a problem but really it's the water pump that breaks the opti! I have owned a total of 4 LT1 cars and each time I have replaced the water pump and opti on all of them. Just make sure the trans shifts well and the rear end isn't making a whining noise and nothing goes "CLUNK" when you turn hard left to right. The LS1 however is a much better built engine that in my opinion is the best V8 that GM has produced. If you can find one I would go for it over the LT1 car. The Torque of an LT1 car is unmatched and has a better "seat of the pants" feel.

Good luck and go get one!

BlueMR2

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Friday 13th August 2010
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Still no reply. I will try to get to the Leeds Cruise tomorrow as you never know what will turn up.

thanks for the reply. How much do the bits cost in the US to change the opti spark and water pump and how long do the water pumps usually last?

LuS1fer

41,487 posts

250 months

Saturday 14th August 2010
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Use www.rockauto.com and you won't go far wrong - very quick though you need to add shipping costs. the Optispark unit varies from $173 for a pattern part to $550 for a genuine AC Delco though you'd probably be better off converting to an 8 coil set-up using a kit for the latter price.
Water pumps $85 up to $225 for genuine AC Delco.

At this price point, I'd be using pattern parts - it's not like the originals have set any benchmark in reliability.

maudyZ28

133 posts

185 months

Sunday 15th August 2010
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yeah i did have some brakes but they went, full conversion to go on a 3rd gen, only got £80 too.

So still not found anything yet? The LS1 looks ok, but rather cheap if you ask me, but baby forces sale is a biggie, my pal is selling a roush stage 3 stang, £20K for it on a 54 plate, 35K miles :O, like 3K less than it could pull.

I would want to check what this auto box rebuild was

BlueMR2

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Sunday 15th August 2010
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I chatted to the owner on Saturday.

It sounds like its had a fair bit of work done by its previous owner. New brakes all round, spark plugs change and some gearbox work in 98.

Only done a few thousand km in the last couple of years and not taxed since Jan. So only really moved for its mot in July.

Does it look like a couple of the suspension bolts are rusty on the right side of the picture? and whats the big black thing behind it as that looks rusty too.



It had some corrosion by a suspension turret in the past at the rear apparently but has been fixed and the underside sealed.

The main things that concern me are its lack of use, optispark issues through lack of use (ie they may not have noticed it as they haven't used it) and the repair done.

I'm waiting to get some insurance quotes they are closed Sunday.

Can you fit electric leather seats to a car that has got manual cloth ones?

Otherwise it seems quite nice, just perhaps 450+ mile round trip so a couple of hundred on fuel frown.

BlueMR2

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Sunday 15th August 2010
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maudyZ28 said:
yeah i did have some brakes but they went, full conversion to go on a 3rd gen, only got £80 too.

So still not found anything yet? The LS1 looks ok, but rather cheap if you ask me, but baby forces sale is a biggie, my pal is selling a roush stage 3 stang, £20K for it on a 54 plate, 35K miles :O, like 3K less than it could pull.

I would want to check what this auto box rebuild was
Hi Luke. The LS1 is too expensive for me now. So still looking at the one down south. It does seem to have a fair bit of history for the last few years. Just optispark concerns me somewhat.

This is the Roush engine bay for anyone interested.
http://markh.talkaudiohosting.co.uk/Hosted/ph/IMG_...