Goodies for the car, Part 2
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Fitted the axle relocation kit at last between rain showers!!
Thought i would take the oportunity to lower the back while it was all stripped out.
Havnt driven it yet as i still have the front to lower.
Lowered about 40mm
The rose joints need adjusting, as you can see in the picture the wheel is not central in the arch, something i will get around to when it stops raining.
Ben
Edited by bloodyniceben on Saturday 28th July 12:09
tpivette said:
Great looking kit, did you have to weld those relocation brackets on ?
Where did you get it all?
Was it tremendously costly?
and the important bit, how does it go?
Where did you get it all?
Was it tremendously costly?
and the important bit, how does it go?
I'm currently looking at the Edelbrock suspension kit about £700+vat (4th gen only) but they do separate items for 3rd gen
These kits are a bit pointless unless you weld in subframe connectors to stop the chassis being as strong as a credit card. That way, the power will go into the road and not into twisting the shell. There is a guy in the UK who makes them relatively cheaply - think he uses the www.amvo.net board or the www.aacint.co.uk board. He uses the name Rocky.
Matt Harper said:
Ben
Please confirm that you weren't under your car all weekend with only that crummy scissor jack to protect you from being flattened by your diff.....
Your 88 appears to have 87 wheels, by the way.
Yes, my 88 does have 87 wheels, as they look a lot nicer than 88 ones.Please confirm that you weren't under your car all weekend with only that crummy scissor jack to protect you from being flattened by your diff.....
Your 88 appears to have 87 wheels, by the way.
I have been a mechanic/technician for 14 years, and currently work for Mercedes Benz, i think i know how to jack up a car, and whether a bolt is in good enough condition to use! The kit is on temporarily as a trial fit until the car gets its strip and re build, where any bolts etc will be replaced, but just because a bolt has a rust coloured head, doesnt mean its not safe to use. Axle stands were under the body, while a trolley jack was used to adjust the height of the axle.
This is a bolt on kit, made to be bolted on, so that is how it has been fitted. If i had welded it on, some bright spark would have come up with 'thats a bolt on kit only, you shouldnt have welded it on!'
Subframe connectors will be going on the car, but i dont see the point of putting them on until the underside of the car has been stripped of underseal/flaky paint etc.
Ben
Edited by bloodyniceben on Wednesday 1st August 08:49
tpivette said:
Great looking kit, did you have to weld those relocation brackets on ?
Where did you get it all?
Was it tremendously costly?
and the important bit, how does it go?
I bought the kit from a mate who has a Trans Am, he is selling the car and never got round to fitting the kit. I paid £100 for it but i think its about £250 new.Where did you get it all?
Was it tremendously costly?
and the important bit, how does it go?
Ben
I am half way through constructing a set of my my own. I have a strut brace being painted today that I fabbed up first as a test of my meagre skills.
If you have still have the originals that came of the car, and you dont mind me asking, what length (from centre of mounting hole to centre of mounting hole) are the factory stockers ?
Did you find that all the adjustment range on the aftermarket items was biased towards being longer than stock on the LCA's but shorter on the Panhard? Or were they just slap bang in the middle with equal adjustment either side.
Thanks if you can help. When i tried to measure on car I kept getting odd results, slightly different length arms! edit - the car not me.
If you have still have the originals that came of the car, and you dont mind me asking, what length (from centre of mounting hole to centre of mounting hole) are the factory stockers ?
Did you find that all the adjustment range on the aftermarket items was biased towards being longer than stock on the LCA's but shorter on the Panhard? Or were they just slap bang in the middle with equal adjustment either side.
Thanks if you can help. When i tried to measure on car I kept getting odd results, slightly different length arms! edit - the car not me.
Edited by tpivette on Wednesday 1st August 12:43
LuS1fer said:
These kits are a bit pointless unless you weld in subframe connectors to stop the chassis being as strong as a credit card. That way, the power will go into the road and not into twisting the shell. There is a guy in the UK who makes them relatively cheaply - think he uses the www.amvo.net board or the www.aacint.co.uk board. He uses the name Rocky.
Rocky welded some on my 2nd Gen - top stuff - absolute 1st to do on an old F - body[quote=bloodyniceben
Yes, my 88 does have 87 wheels, as they look a lot nicer than 88 ones.
I have been a mechanic/technician for 14 years, and currently work for Mercedes Benz, i think i know how to jack up a car, and whether a bolt is in good enough condition to use! The kit is on temporarily as a trial fit until the car gets its strip and re build, where any bolts etc will be replaced, but just because a bolt has a rust coloured head, doesnt mean its not safe to use. Axle stands were under the body, while a trolley jack was used to adjust the height of the axle.
This is a bolt on kit, made to be bolted on, so that is how it has been fitted. If i had welded it on, some bright spark would have come up with 'thats a bolt on kit only, you shouldnt have welded it on!'
Subframe connectors will be going on the car, but i dont see the point of putting them on until the underside of the car has been stripped of underseal/flaky paint etc.
Ben
[/quote]
Hello Ben
I clearly touched a few raw nerves here and caused you some offense, that was not my intention. The comment about the scissor jack was supposed to be a light-hearted gag. I think it's fairly obvious that you couldn't disconnect the rear end with such a crude implement.
It struck me as odd that you would go to the trouble of performing the up-grade (using good quality components, by the look) and then hanging it all together with crappy, rusted-out hardware. In fairness your posting didn't indicate that it was just put together temporarily.
I am new to this forum - consequently I should be more mindful of stranger's delicate sensibilities. Surely, however, you posted this to hear the heart-felt comments of others, rather than merely receive a string of kiss-ass congratulations for your workmanship.
I do not have the extensive technical experience that you have - and I defer to it. If Mercedes Benz technicians routinely utilize potentially 20 year-old fasteners on key suspension components, then so-be-it.
I am familiar with the car, having owned an 88 vintage IROC TPI in the early 90's and your obvious affection for the car is something I appreciate, having felt the same way about mine.
If I upset you, I apologise sincerely.
Matt
Yes, my 88 does have 87 wheels, as they look a lot nicer than 88 ones.
I have been a mechanic/technician for 14 years, and currently work for Mercedes Benz, i think i know how to jack up a car, and whether a bolt is in good enough condition to use! The kit is on temporarily as a trial fit until the car gets its strip and re build, where any bolts etc will be replaced, but just because a bolt has a rust coloured head, doesnt mean its not safe to use. Axle stands were under the body, while a trolley jack was used to adjust the height of the axle.
This is a bolt on kit, made to be bolted on, so that is how it has been fitted. If i had welded it on, some bright spark would have come up with 'thats a bolt on kit only, you shouldnt have welded it on!'
Subframe connectors will be going on the car, but i dont see the point of putting them on until the underside of the car has been stripped of underseal/flaky paint etc.
Ben
Edited by bloodyniceben on Wednesday 1st August 08:49
[/quote]
Hello Ben
I clearly touched a few raw nerves here and caused you some offense, that was not my intention. The comment about the scissor jack was supposed to be a light-hearted gag. I think it's fairly obvious that you couldn't disconnect the rear end with such a crude implement.
It struck me as odd that you would go to the trouble of performing the up-grade (using good quality components, by the look) and then hanging it all together with crappy, rusted-out hardware. In fairness your posting didn't indicate that it was just put together temporarily.
I am new to this forum - consequently I should be more mindful of stranger's delicate sensibilities. Surely, however, you posted this to hear the heart-felt comments of others, rather than merely receive a string of kiss-ass congratulations for your workmanship.
I do not have the extensive technical experience that you have - and I defer to it. If Mercedes Benz technicians routinely utilize potentially 20 year-old fasteners on key suspension components, then so-be-it.
I am familiar with the car, having owned an 88 vintage IROC TPI in the early 90's and your obvious affection for the car is something I appreciate, having felt the same way about mine.
If I upset you, I apologise sincerely.
Matt
Matt Harper said:
[quote=bloodyniceben
Yes, my 88 does have 87 wheels, as they look a lot nicer than 88 ones.
I have been a mechanic/technician for 14 years, and currently work for Mercedes Benz, i think i know how to jack up a car, and whether a bolt is in good enough condition to use! The kit is on temporarily as a trial fit until the car gets its strip and re build, where any bolts etc will be replaced, but just because a bolt has a rust coloured head, doesnt mean its not safe to use. Axle stands were under the body, while a trolley jack was used to adjust the height of the axle.
This is a bolt on kit, made to be bolted on, so that is how it has been fitted. If i had welded it on, some bright spark would have come up with 'thats a bolt on kit only, you shouldnt have welded it on!'
Subframe connectors will be going on the car, but i dont see the point of putting them on until the underside of the car has been stripped of underseal/flaky paint etc.
Ben
Hello BenYes, my 88 does have 87 wheels, as they look a lot nicer than 88 ones.
I have been a mechanic/technician for 14 years, and currently work for Mercedes Benz, i think i know how to jack up a car, and whether a bolt is in good enough condition to use! The kit is on temporarily as a trial fit until the car gets its strip and re build, where any bolts etc will be replaced, but just because a bolt has a rust coloured head, doesnt mean its not safe to use. Axle stands were under the body, while a trolley jack was used to adjust the height of the axle.
This is a bolt on kit, made to be bolted on, so that is how it has been fitted. If i had welded it on, some bright spark would have come up with 'thats a bolt on kit only, you shouldnt have welded it on!'
Subframe connectors will be going on the car, but i dont see the point of putting them on until the underside of the car has been stripped of underseal/flaky paint etc.
Ben
Edited by bloodyniceben on Wednesday 1st August 08:49
I clearly touched a few raw nerves here and caused you some offense, that was not my intention. The comment about the scissor jack was supposed to be a light-hearted gag. I think it's fairly obvious that you couldn't disconnect the rear end with such a crude implement.
It struck me as odd that you would go to the trouble of performing the up-grade (using good quality components, by the look) and then hanging it all together with crappy, rusted-out hardware. In fairness your posting didn't indicate that it was just put together temporarily.
I am new to this forum - consequently I should be more mindful of stranger's delicate sensibilities. Surely, however, you posted this to hear the heart-felt comments of others, rather than merely receive a string of kiss-ass congratulations for your workmanship.
I do not have the extensive technical experience that you have - and I defer to it. If Mercedes Benz technicians routinely utilize potentially 20 year-old fasteners on key suspension components, then so-be-it.
I am familiar with the car, having owned an 88 vintage IROC TPI in the early 90's and your obvious affection for the car is something I appreciate, having felt the same way about mine.
If I upset you, I apologise sincerely.
Matt
At the end of the day, a bolt is a bolt, whether its 20 or 50 years old, if its in good condition, then there is no problem with re using it.
Ben
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