So I've bought a dually! Advice please?

So I've bought a dually! Advice please?

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shovelheadrob

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1,564 posts

178 months

Thursday 6th March 2014
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OK so I've bitten the bullet & put phase one of my retirement plan into operation, I've just bough an F350 Lariat, Super Cab, 4WD. Very low mileage & not messed with. First problem, I had my mechanic give it a service & asked him to get the MOT done as the truck has been in storage for several years, got a phone call today to say the MOT station are refusing to test it because of the GVW being 5200kg, the old MOTs show it has had either a class 4 or a class 7 test. My interpretation of this is that it can be classed as a dual purpose vehicle ( class 4, no weight limit AFAIK) which according to some research has been done away with & a note to say test as class 7 (which has a 3500kg weight limit) so my good PH dually fans & ex owners what is the answer?
I have downloaded a form for Exemption from Goods Vehicle Testing https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=... Paragraphs 35 & 15 are relevant,OK just re read that & I misunderstood, it can be defined as a heavy motor car http://www.transportsfriend.org/road/definitions.h... which then makes it a class 4 MOT, HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP...............!!!

Edited by shovelheadrob on Thursday 6th March 20:27

AdeTuono

7,408 posts

234 months

Thursday 6th March 2014
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I had all kinds of hassle getting an MOT when I had my duallie. Not many places had ramps man enough to lift it. I ended up at the VOSA test station, lined up with all the LGV's.

Which truck did you get? I was looking around for one late last year, but opted for a Raptor in the end. No regrets at all, but I loved my old 7.3 Powerstroke. The later 6.0 though....less said the better!

shovelheadrob

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1,564 posts

178 months

Thursday 6th March 2014
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I bought a 7.3, I'd ruled out a 6.o for the known problems so was looking at a later 6.4 from the States when this one turned up. Had to get it back from Spain, but it is seriously low mileage, been in dry storage since 2009 & as it is already registered here I thought that would make things a bit easier! Just want to get it MOT'd so I can drive it! (I had to send a couple of mates over to fetch it back due to work commitments)

Fleckers

2,870 posts

208 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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this thread needs some pictures smile

do you still have the F150 Harley ?

shovelheadrob

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1,564 posts

178 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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Sold the Roush Harley, all part of the retirement plan to go travelling wherever the mood takes us. These pics were taken before it came home





It has only done 22000km & is as clean underneath as it is on top.


All Mot'd now with no reduction in weight or towing ability, it's actually quite easy when you ask the right questions to the right people, finding those people though is another matter! Fortunately a member on another forum that I frequent is a VOSA technical advisor who explained the ins & outs of what I needed to do.

AdeTuono

7,408 posts

234 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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I can recommend the Edge Evolution tuner for the 7.3. It gives noticeably more power & torque, and can also improve the mileage, unless you dial in the 'extreme' tune, which lets it take off like a scalded cat. Something so big & heavy has no right to move like that.

Hope you enjoy it; I'd have another at the drop of a hat.

shovelheadrob

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1,564 posts

178 months

Tuesday 18th March 2014
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Thanks Ade, I have thought about a tuner, there are so many to choose from, I must admit I'm surprised at how quick it is stock. Bit slow off the mark, but once it's moving & the turbo spools up it can move! Obviously not as quick as my last truck but I think that with a tune it shouldn't be too far behind. The fuel economy isn't as bad as I was expecting either, should have got one a long time ago!

Fleckers

2,870 posts

208 months

Wednesday 19th March 2014
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who ever got your F150 lucky person, it was jsut out of my price unfortunatly

this new truck looks MASSIVE i bet its fun to drive and people always let you through a 50-50 gap smile


SVTRick

3,633 posts

202 months

Saturday 22nd March 2014
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The only advise I can give you Rob
Stay clear of 6' 6" width restrictions otherwise that rear end will part company with the cab.

Nice looking truck mate smile

AlRam

1 posts

119 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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Having the same problem with my Dodge on the MOT, how did you get round it?

shovelheadrob

Original Poster:

1,564 posts

178 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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PM sent, for those interested we now have a trailer



Next winter will be spent somewhere warm!!

Fleckers

2,870 posts

208 months

Sunday 21st December 2014
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very impressive looking setup

hunton69

674 posts

144 months

Friday 3rd April 2015
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How did you sort out the weight and towing capacity? My Ram states that it's max gross weight is 3500kg and that's what it weighs without me in it

shovelheadrob

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1,564 posts

178 months

Saturday 11th April 2015
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My truck has never been downrated & it is classed as a car not a commercial, so as long as it's under 6500kg it gets a class 4 MOT & retains it's original towing capacity, I have had a new door sticker made which now shows the GCWR (train weight) as well as the original stuff, to keep within EU regs for towing.

Avdb

177 posts

125 months

Sunday 12th April 2015
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That set up looks great - have fun!

flatso

1,310 posts

136 months

Thursday 28th May 2015
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Looking into the 5th wheel scene myself...good looking setup! Did you buy the trailer in the US?

shovelheadrob

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1,564 posts

178 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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I was going to source one from The USA but then a mate of mine brought this one back, he'd been using it out there for a few years for holidays, it had a layout that works for us & I got a really good deal IMHO. I also got to learn about the in's & out's of them by doing all the conversion for EU use myself.

ecuremap

1 posts

108 months

Thursday 19th November 2015
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Hi have f350 duel cab has been mot as class 7 before, but as class 7 it won't have any load carrying capacity left any advice ???



Thanks Dave

Motorama

472 posts

225 months

Thursday 19th November 2015
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shovelheadrob said:
PM sent, for those interested we now have a trailer



Next winter will be spent somewhere warm!!
What sort of weight is that trailer Rob? Doesn't look too big

shovelheadrob

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178 months

Thursday 19th November 2015
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It's 33ft & 11,700lbs GVW Andy, I have a weighbridge where I keep it & with the truck full of diesel & the fresh water tank on the trailer full the whole rig goes close to 8 tonnes.
To ecuremap, you need to have it tested as class 4, VOSA DVSA are quite happy about this, you just need to find a testing station that can accommodate the size & weight, I use my local Ford dealership as they can handle the largest Transit tippers & the like & accept it as a class 4, I had a chat with our local DVSA people the other week regarding my 5th wheel trailer & brakes, brake controllers, MOTs etc & he did say that having a class 7 or class 4 MOT was not an issue as he realised that many testers aren't aware of how these truck should be tested & if you were to get stopped & checked they would be looking to see if everything was in good order regardless of having an MOT of either class.