Importing an F450 (Roo maybe?)

Importing an F450 (Roo maybe?)

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shovelheadrob

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1,564 posts

176 months

Wednesday 13th February 2013
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Is it possible to import an F450 & if so would it have to be down rated to register it? I've been told not possible by someone I know who brings cars & trucks in from time to time, but I was also told that it was no longer possible to bring in F350's & I see that a couple of dealers have new ones for sale.

Roo

11,503 posts

212 months

Thursday 14th February 2013
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The rules changed when trucks went over to IVA test.

Provided the GVW is under 6500kg and the bed is no more than 40% of the overall length of the truck it can be IVA tested under class M1 passenger car.

It would then get registered as an MPV so it can't be used for any form of hire or reward. The problem you get is when it comes to the MOT. You need to find someone who understands that it needs to be tested as a class 4 heavy passenger car. The problem with that is that most places that do class 4 MOTs don't have a ramp big enough to cope with them.

V8 FOU

2,984 posts

152 months

Thursday 14th February 2013
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I registered my F350 with a truck camper on the back - so it's registered as a motorhome. At the time no SVA was needed!
MoT is a pain - I go to the Aviva bus garage in Maidstone - but they are real picky. I get many cars and bikes MoT'd, but they are as I say real picky. Don't like American stuff I think.

BTW mine will be for sale in a couple of months!

Roo

11,503 posts

212 months

Thursday 14th February 2013
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The exemption for motorhomes from the SVA test stopped when eveything swapped over to IVA testing.

shovelheadrob

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1,564 posts

176 months

Thursday 14th February 2013
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Thanks for that, I have a long term retirement plan which involves a large toy hauler. The one I would like is probably going to be a bit too much for a 350 unless my budget can stretch to a new one as they have a higher GTW.

redtwin

7,518 posts

187 months

Friday 15th February 2013
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Roo said:
The rules changed when trucks went over to IVA test.

Provided the GVW is under 6500kg and the bed is no more than 40% of the overall length of the truck it can be IVA tested under class M1 passenger car.
Is that why there are so few single cab and extra cab trucks over here?. I previously thought it was due to people buying them as "lifestyle" vehicles who were more interested in 4 doors/5 seats than bed capacity.

pilotea

185 posts

236 months

Sunday 17th February 2013
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shovelheadrob said:
Thanks for that, I have a long term retirement plan which involves a large toy hauler. The one I would like is probably going to be a bit too much for a 350 unless my budget can stretch to a new one as they have a higher GTW.
Honestly for Europe I would rather go for a small tractor unit. Might not be as cool, doesn't have more than 3 seats but you will have a lot less problems. I don't know a lot about trucks but I had an eye on a DAF85 once, rather small compared to a XF105... does the job better than a F450, can easily be serviced etc etc, and is a LOT cheaper, you can get a nice small tractor unit for around 5000 pounds. All you need is a C+E on your driving license.

shovelheadrob

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Sunday 17th February 2013
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pilotea said:
Honestly for Europe I would rather go for a small tractor unit. Might not be as cool, doesn't have more than 3 seats but you will have a lot less problems. I don't know a lot about trucks but I had an eye on a DAF85 once, rather small compared to a XF105... does the job better than a F450, can easily be serviced etc etc, and is a LOT cheaper, you can get a nice small tractor unit for around 5000 pounds. All you need is a C+E on your driving license.
The trouble with that is not enough seats, we sometimes take the grandchildren, we also have 2 very large dogs that would struggle leaping up in to a tractor unit. I had already thought about that route & even looked into trying to get a sleeper cab converted to a crew cab but that was a whole new minefield!

Roo

11,503 posts

212 months

Sunday 17th February 2013
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redtwin said:
Roo said:
The rules changed when trucks went over to IVA test.

Provided the GVW is under 6500kg and the bed is no more than 40% of the overall length of the truck it can be IVA tested under class M1 passenger car.
Is that why there are so few single cab and extra cab trucks over here?. I previously thought it was due to people buying them as "lifestyle" vehicles who were more interested in 4 doors/5 seats than bed capacity.
It's a combination of regulations.

Three seats or less is a commercial vehicle as far as IVA testing is concerned. More than three seats meets the tougher regs.

Regular cab trucks aren't very popular over here, irrespective of it it's a domestic vehicle or US import.

pilotea

185 posts

236 months

Sunday 17th February 2013
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shovelheadrob said:
The trouble with that is not enough seats, we sometimes take the grandchildren, we also have 2 very large dogs that would struggle leaping up in to a tractor unit. I had already thought about that route & even looked into trying to get a sleeper cab converted to a crew cab but that was a whole new minefield!
Well seems like you've had the same thoughs as I :-) I ended up looking at ex fireengines, they come with all the space you want......and they're usually very low mileage, cheap (5000 or so)

Roo

11,503 posts

212 months

Sunday 17th February 2013
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pilotea said:
Honestly for Europe I would rather go for a small tractor unit. Might not be as cool, doesn't have more than 3 seats but you will have a lot less problems. I don't know a lot about trucks but I had an eye on a DAF85 once, rather small compared to a XF105... does the job better than a F450, can easily be serviced etc etc, and is a LOT cheaper, you can get a nice small tractor unit for around 5000 pounds. All you need is a C+E on your driving license.
Sorry, you've lost me there.

You seem to be talking about UK spec tractor/artic units as opposed to US pick up trucks.

How do you compare them?

redtwin

7,518 posts

187 months

Tuesday 19th February 2013
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Roo said:
redtwin said:
Roo said:
The rules changed when trucks went over to IVA test.

Provided the GVW is under 6500kg and the bed is no more than 40% of the overall length of the truck it can be IVA tested under class M1 passenger car.
Is that why there are so few single cab and extra cab trucks over here?. I previously thought it was due to people buying them as "lifestyle" vehicles who were more interested in 4 doors/5 seats than bed capacity.
It's a combination of regulations.

Three seats or less is a commercial vehicle as far as IVA testing is concerned. More than three seats meets the tougher regs.

Regular cab trucks aren't very popular over here, irrespective of it it's a domestic vehicle or US import.
So a 3 seat single cab pickup would be subject to lower speed limits on A and B roads?. I keep thinking of a pickup as my next vehicle but there seem to be so many pitfalls. Not being able to find a single cab that isn't an F150 Lightning (pay a premium for performance I don't want) or a knackered farm or fleet reject with unsuitable spec has made me give up a few times.

Roo

11,503 posts

212 months

Tuesday 19th February 2013
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It's down to the taxation class on the VED.

A lot of trucks that came over when SVA was still valid were registered as PLG. Some were registered as LGV.