71 GTO in classifieds, what has it not sold?

[shibby!]

Yo!

Bit of an old school muscle man, and i generally look around to see if there is anything around.

I have noticed this has been for sale for AGES now.......

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3381152.htm

It would seem like a good price, compared to what they go for in the US, why has this not sold yet. What is wrong with it.

[redtwin]

If I had £19K to spend on a GTO that wouldn't be the one I would buy. Not saying there is anything wrong with that particular car, it is actually a very nice example of an ugly GTO.

One of these or none at all.

[shibby!]

I can understand why the older one would be worth more..... But dang I love the look of the 70s ones more than that one for some reason! Lol.

[PascalBuyens]

Taste differ, I guess, no?

Personally, I like the 66 model, but NOT with a hardtop

[roscobbc]

One of the least favourite years - too heavy a front end treatment!

[LuS1fer]

I love that but despite it being beautiful, I really do draw a psychological line at about £15k for a classic car which I know will drive as loosely as a c*ck in a sock. In so many ways, I desire it but I think our current "summers" turn me away from classics.

[roscobbc]

LuS1fer said:

I love that but despite it being beautiful, I really do draw a psychological line at about £15k for a classic car which I know will drive as loosely as a c*ck in a sock. In so many ways, I desire it but I think our current "summers" turn me away from classics.

Rather a "c*ck in a sock" handling than 'on the extreme outer edge' handling of some later cars - at least you can feel when the car is going 'off road' unlike some late performance cars (I'm gonna get shot down now - but a late Z06 in damp weather is a candidate for a 'write-off' isn't it?)

[LuS1fer]

roscobbc said:

LuS1fer said:

I love that but despite it being beautiful, I really do draw a psychological line at about £15k for a classic car which I know will drive as loosely as a c*ck in a sock. In so many ways, I desire it but I think our current "summers" turn me away from classics.

Rather a "c*ck in a sock" handling than 'on the extreme outer edge' handling of some later cars - at least you can feel when the car is going 'off road' unlike some late performance cars (I'm gonna get shot down now - but a late Z06 in damp weather is a candidate for a 'write-off' isn't it?)

No. I had a C5 Z06 (405hp) and never had any issues with it in the wet as it wore Goodyear F1 tyres as standard. You'd also have to be going insanely fast to get anywhere near the limits. I sold mine partly because the limits were too high to get much fun from it. Even the Mustang (462hp)has yet to give even the slightest hint of rear end loss and I have driven it in rain!
Compare that to my old 3rd gen Z28 which liked to spin if you got it wrong.

BEauty is in the eye of the beholder though as the GTO redtwin craves is the one I think is fairly hideous.

[roscobbc]

LuS1fer said:

No. I had a C5 Z06 (405hp) and never had any issues with it in the wet as it wore Goodyear F1 tyres as standard. You'd also have to be going insanely fast to get anywhere near the limits. I sold mine partly because the limits were too high to get much fun from it. Even the Mustang (462hp)has yet to give even the slightest hint of rear end loss and I have driven it in rain!
Compare that to my old 3rd gen Z28 which liked to spin if you got it wrong.

BEauty is in the eye of the beholder though as the GTO redtwin craves is the one I think is fairly hideous.

I wasn't referring to the C5 Z06 - more the C6 Z06 - sooooooooooo many seem to have been written off pro-rata to the numbers around.

Buddy of mine has owned a '65 Goat for over 30 years - a nice lively 'lightweight'(well relatively) medium sized (well, medium/intermediate in American parlance) muscle car.

[LuS1fer]

roscobbc said:

I wasn't referring to the C5 Z06 - more the C6 Z06 - sooooooooooo many seem to have been written off pro-rata to the numbers around.

Buddy of mine has owned a '65 Goat for over 30 years - a nice lively 'lightweight'(well relatively) medium sized (well, medium/intermediate in American parlance) muscle car.

I think that's down to it being so much performance for so little money. We had a spate of Mustangs going through hedges backwards when people bought them after watching too many Yank TV programmes though that seems to have tailed off a lot now. Far too many people who have been raised on FWD.

[roscobbc]

LuS1fer said:

I think that's down to it being so much performance for so little money. We had a spate of Mustangs going through hedges backwards when people bought them after watching too many Yank TV programmes though that seems to have tailed off a lot now. Far too many people who have been raised on FWD.

FWD = CRAP - I have driven probably in excess of 1 million miles in company cars over many years - the last RWD car was 30 years ago - a Sierra automatic - what a fantastic car this was in snow. This year saw a 120D auto as the company wagon - wonderful to have a RWD car again (other than Vette that is)!

[tortop45]

shibby! said:

Yo!

Bit of an old school muscle man, and i generally look around to see if there is anything around.

I have noticed this has been for sale for AGES now.......

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3381152.htm

It would seem like a good price, compared to what they go for in the US, why has this not sold yet. What is wrong with it.

Is it me or have the price of classics dropped back a bit ?.

[shibby!]

Yup, that one has definately dropped.

It was up at just over 20k when i first saw it.

[mantaray]

i too feel the prices have dropped , been watching loads corvettes mustangs etc , they are either dreaming or just sitting not sold , stuff over 25k seams very slow .

[roscobbc]

mantaray said:

i too feel the prices have dropped , been watching loads corvettes mustangs etc , they are either dreaming or just sitting not sold , stuff over 25k seams very slow .

The real problem in my view is that certain 'run of the mill' classics have been priced far too high for a few years - by this I mean 65/66 Mustang coupe's (not fastbacks) - yet 'cooking' lo-po emission area Corvettes have been arguably too cheap in comparison. The real steal would be a 'late' original series T A Firebird id you can find one1

[moparmick]

I personally prefer the 64 or 65, as they are smaller, so have a better power to weight ratio.
If you are after a nice car, i'm about to advertise this. I want 13,000 for it. Dodge Coronet R/T, 440 ci, no rust, all new interior and now with weld draglites all round.

Edited by moparmick on Tuesday 21st August 00:20

[malc350]

Here's a better GTO: better year, better engine, plus it's a ragtop (if you like a ragtop that is) and it's 17k in the UK

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1969-PONTIAC-GTO-RED-WHI...

[Captain Cadillac]

If you buy a GTO without PHS documentation that it's really a GTO, then assume that it's a LeMans made to look like a GTO. Pontiac can document most any GTO built but there's lots and lots of faked cars, especially in Europe.

The value of a GTO is largely that it's a real deal and that it's got the original drivetrain in it. These aren't tough cars to fake.

[malc350]

Or, back to why it hasn't sold: there just isn't anyone who wants a 71 GTO with that kind of money over here or that kind of money is too much for a '71 GTO in this country.

Pick one of the above.

P.S. point taken in previous point about "making a GTO" it aint hard!