Any one know this Pontiac
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far better than a mustang (which also suffers badly from tinworm!)
I have owned about 10 of them over the last 20 years and would buy a bullnose now if the prices haddnt gone up to what I feel is too much - possibly only because the last very nice 4 speed manual car I sold went for £3500 and i used to be able to buy nice enough cars for between 1k and 3k back then and just cant help valuing them the same..
I have owned about 10 of them over the last 20 years and would buy a bullnose now if the prices haddnt gone up to what I feel is too much - possibly only because the last very nice 4 speed manual car I sold went for £3500 and i used to be able to buy nice enough cars for between 1k and 3k back then and just cant help valuing them the same..
hedgefinder said:
far better than a mustang (which also suffers badly from tinworm!)
I have owned about 10 of them over the last 20 years and would buy a bullnose now if the prices haddnt gone up to what I feel is too much - possibly only because the last very nice 4 speed manual car I sold went for £3500 and i used to be able to buy nice enough cars for between 1k and 3k back then and just cant help valuing them the same..
Sounds like me: I sold my 455HO Trans Am years ago for £3500. A couple of years ago I looked at one for sale and the guy wanted £35k. I nearly cried with laughter. 2 years later it's still for sale.I have owned about 10 of them over the last 20 years and would buy a bullnose now if the prices haddnt gone up to what I feel is too much - possibly only because the last very nice 4 speed manual car I sold went for £3500 and i used to be able to buy nice enough cars for between 1k and 3k back then and just cant help valuing them the same..
No it isn't the one on the Pontiac Club site for £40k, that one really is amazing. The "35k" car is actually a dog though I'd think about giving £15k or so for it.
Trouble is, and no offence to those that have these cars up for that kind of money, but for the same dough you can buy a C6 Z06: 505bhp (real bhp, not the made up horsepower you always see in adverts), 200mph, 0-60 under 4 sec, 30mpg on a gentle motorway cruise, total reliability.
Anyway the car discussed here is 12 grand or so. I think a bullnose with a sound body could be a good buy for that money.
For their time they were a great driving car and look fantastic. Trouble for me is that nice though a Formula is, the Trans Am really is the one...
Malc
malc350 said:
Trouble is, and no offence to those that have these cars up for that kind of money, but for the same dough you can buy a C6 Z06: 505bhp (real bhp, not the made up horsepower you always see in adverts), 200mph, 0-60 under 4 sec, 30mpg on a gentle motorway cruise, total reliability.
Malc
You're comparing comparing Apples & oranges there. For the same money you could have a Diesel Peugeot 308. Malc
mantaray said:
Well i just thought it looked good value against similar Mustangs i have looked at , 12k i think is on the money for it , but viewing my change that .
Anyway i have got my Carfest tickets so i will report back to what its like .
Be curious to see what's it's like for the money.. Check good and proper underneath for rust, condition of floors, bushes etc.. Anyway i have got my Carfest tickets so i will report back to what its like .
Cledus Snow said:
You're comparing comparing Apples & oranges there. For the same money you could have a Diesel Peugeot 308.
Well yes and no, what I'm saying is that for £30+ k a bullnose Trans Am has had its day when for the same money you can buy a US car that is infinitely faster and you can actually use it without going bankrupt. Ever tried to drive a car a couple of hundred miles when it does 8-10 mpg and <5mpg when you boot it?You soon just get tired of it...
hedgefinder said:
a 70's trans am was the first car I ever owned that took over £100 to fill the tank, and that was 20 years ago...
£100 to fill the tank @ 1992? - I call B
t!Either you had a massive non-standard tank fitted or you were still pumping in fuel whilst it was spilling all over the forecourt!
Early 70's Trans Am fuel tanks hold @ 18 US gallons (@ 15 UK gallons)
Late 70's Trans Am fuel tanks hold @ 21 US gallons (@ 17.4 UK gallons)
The price of petrol in '92 was @ £1.83 per UK gallon (according to this site: http://www.speedlimit.org.uk/petrolprices.html )
15 gallons x £1.83 = £27.45
17.4 gallons x £1.83 = £31.84
There's no way you could get £100's worth of fuel in a 70's Trans Am fuel tank back in '92!
As further proof, I owned a '77 Trans Am back in '92 (REG: VMD 441S), and I remember that the tank would take @ £28 to brim the tank from almost empty.
(I used to have to fill the bloody thing twice a week back then! - I did love that car though! [Damn you Burt Reynolds!] ).
Oh, and if you don't believe I owned one, here are the DVLA details :
Vehicle enquiry
The enquiry is complete.The vehicle details for VMD 441S are:
Date of Liability 01 01 2000
Date of First Registration 01 05 1978
Year of Manufacture 1977
Cylinder Capacity (cc) 6553cc
CO2 Emissions Not Available
Fuel Type PETROL
Export Marker N
Vehicle Status Unlicensed
Vehicle Colour BLACK
Vehicle Type Approval Not Available
Vehicle Excise Duty rate for vehicle
6 Months Rate £121.00
12 Months Rate £220.00
hedgefinder said:
a 70's trans am was the first car I ever owned that took over £100 to fill the tank, and that was 20 years ago...
Not really possible. Much as my 455 destroyed fuel it only had a 14 gallon tank so even now the old T/A would only take £90 or less. 20 years ago I'd imagine fuel was about a third what it is now?Edit: whoops sorry didn't see the post above.
I do remember my 78 T/A was mentally better on fuel than my 71 455H/O. The '71 was about 25 times as fast though. My '78 was near stock and to be honest, bloody slow...
Edited by malc350 on Monday 20th August 23:51
hmm, maybe it was my suburban then, but I do remember filling up in a small service station in the middle of no where travelling away from Ipswitch on a run from newastle to London to Ipswitch and back.. I know the price was astonomical to fill the tank..was definately at the very least 16 years ago - memory says it was over £100, but memory has been wrong before.
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Edited by hedgefinder on Tuesday 21st August 00:25
hedgefinder said:
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malc350 said:
The old memory's going mate, just like mine. Maybe my Trans Am really did 20 mpg. Oh no I just woke up!
Malc
I eventually got fed up of people asking Me: "What does it do to the gallon mate?", and so worked it out one day. Turned out I was getting 9mpg around town and 14 mpg on a decent run!Malc
On a trip over to see My dad one Sunday, I decided to open her up a bit - and got scared watching how fast the fuel gauge was moving towards empty!
(How did Bandit manage his whole trip with just one fuel stop?
)And when I went to tax it at the Post Office, the guy behind the counter told Me that I'd written the form out incorrectly!:
Me: "Really?, Which bits wrong?"
'You've put the engine size down as 6600cc's instead of 1600cc's!'
Me: "No, it's 6600cc engine, 6.6 litres!"
'I don't think it is!, cars don't come with engines that size!'
Me: "They do if it's an American car! It's a Pontiac Trans Am!"
'Oh!, bet that drinks petrol!'
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