Euro Camaro to US Camaro

Euro Camaro to US Camaro

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2,799 posts

164 months

Tuesday 5th June 2012
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Apologies if this has been talked about before, I did a google search that brought up nothing, but, is it possible to take a brand new Camaro Coupe with the ugly wing mirrors and awful tail lights and change both to the US equivalent and have it look original and also be legal?

tortop45

434 posts

165 months

Tuesday 5th June 2012
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Regiment said:
Apologies if this has been talked about before, I did a google search that brought up nothing, but, is it possible to take a brand new Camaro Coupe with the ugly wing mirrors and awful tail lights and change both to the US equivalent and have it look original and also be legal?
why ?,just get you self a US car,i did and its cheeper ,no show room tax,only 210 road tax a year its the same car,just hasn,t got a towing eye on the front.

LuS1fer

41,512 posts

250 months

Wednesday 6th June 2012
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I suspect the mirrors will fit but the US lights are all red lenses and modern CANBUS electronics makes it harder to add an aftermeerkat orange indicator.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

195 months

Wednesday 6th June 2012
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Regiment said:
Apologies if this has been talked about before, I did a google search that brought up nothing, but, is it possible to take a brand new Camaro Coupe with the ugly wing mirrors and awful tail lights and change both to the US equivalent and have it look original and also be legal?
I suspect it's possible. But some of it might come at huge cost. Also are they the only changes or are there other minor/small differences?

Personally I see zero point in buying a UK/Euro spec one. US cars are cheaper all round and you can always get an aftermarket warranty if you're really that worried.

PascalBuyens

2,868 posts

287 months

Wednesday 6th June 2012
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Regiment said:
Apologies if this has been talked about before, I did a google search that brought up nothing, but, is it possible to take a brand new Camaro Coupe with the ugly wing mirrors and awful tail lights and change both to the US equivalent and have it look original and also be legal?
EU Camaro rear light cluster has all the lights inside the LED "glasses"... US spec has the reversing lights in the bumper. If you want to change the rear lights, you'll have to change the whole rear fascia.

With regards to the mirror, from UIS to EU is possible to interchange, but from EU to US: you'll have to reconnect the integrated indicator to the side marker up front to have a legal side indicator.

I'd buy and import a US one, and do the necessary changes to get the UK IVA approval... (as a matter of fact... mine's being done as we speak) smile

Regiment

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2,799 posts

164 months

Wednesday 6th June 2012
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It was really just to look at what my options were, especially in relation to finance and deposits, etc and which will be easier. I don't mind the hassle of importing but again dependant on if I can sort some sort of finance out for end of next year when I should have a large deposit.

On top of the car, need to sort a deposit out for a mortgage as well, all part of "growing up".

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

195 months

Wednesday 6th June 2012
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Regiment said:
It was really just to look at what my options were, especially in relation to finance and deposits, etc and which will be easier. I don't mind the hassle of importing but again dependant on if I can sort some sort of finance out for end of next year when I should have a large deposit.

On top of the car, need to sort a deposit out for a mortgage as well, all part of "growing up".
One question you should ask yourself is 'how long will I keep the car?'. If it's likely to be 3 years or less (while under warranty), then a Euro spec is ok. The problem comes when GMUK stop supporting Euro models. I've got a 4th Gen Euro spec Camaro and it's a total PITA to get certain 'Euro only' bits for it and GM really couldn't give a chuff at all.

On this basis I'd never buy another Eurospec one.

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Wednesday 6th June 2012
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300bhp/ton said:
One question you should ask yourself is 'how long will I keep the car?'. If it's likely to be 3 years or less (while under warranty), then a Euro spec is ok. The problem comes when GMUK stop supporting Euro models. I've got a 4th Gen Euro spec Camaro and it's a total PITA to get certain 'Euro only' bits for it and GM really couldn't give a chuff at all.

On this basis I'd never buy another Eurospec one.
Plan is, barring any big financial problems, to keep it on a very long term basis.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

195 months

Wednesday 6th June 2012
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In that case I think you'd be much better off with a pucker US spec one. Parts will be easy to get always for it.

PascalBuyens

2,868 posts

287 months

Wednesday 6th June 2012
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Regiment said:
It was really just to look at what my options were, especially in relation to finance and deposits, etc and which will be easier. I don't mind the hassle of importing but again dependant on if I can sort some sort of finance out for end of next year when I should have a large deposit.

On top of the car, need to sort a deposit out for a mortgage as well, all part of "growing up".
I think another important question is: are you thinking V6 or V8?

EU Specs are V8, 2SS/RS specs, basically the US top version spec... If you want a little less than the "full monty", there's no other option than to go for a US one...

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Wednesday 6th June 2012
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PascalBuyens said:
I think another important question is: are you thinking V6 or V8?

EU Specs are V8, 2SS/RS specs, basically the US top version spec... If you want a little less than the "full monty", there's no other option than to go for a US one...
V8 would be my only option, would never consider a v6 version of an muscle car.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

195 months

Wednesday 6th June 2012
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In the US you can buy different spec V8's though. So if you don't want all the kit (less weight) or a particular option code then you'll have more choice. In the UK it's usually rather limited.

PascalBuyens

2,868 posts

287 months

Wednesday 6th June 2012
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Regiment said:
V8 would be my only option, would never consider a v6 version of an muscle car.
Can't argue with that smile

LuS1fer

41,512 posts

250 months

Wednesday 6th June 2012
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PascalBuyens said:
Can't argue with that smile
You can.

Buick Grand National and 3rd gen Firebird Turbo are two that instantly spring to mind.

PascalBuyens

2,868 posts

287 months

Wednesday 6th June 2012
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LuS1fer said:
You can.

Buick Grand National and 3rd gen Firebird Turbo are two that instantly spring to mind.
Dodge Dart 255 slant 6
AMC Gremlin with the 258 6 used in quite some other cars
Plymouth Duster

But that being said... Most people do associate " real muscle cars" with a V8...

Edited to add: GMC Typhoon/Syclone were also 6es, but damn fast for a "truck" =-D

roscobbc

3,579 posts

247 months

Wednesday 6th June 2012
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I know that even current model Mustang with 6 pot is considered somewhat 'effete' certainly compared with the V8 alternatives - in fact they can give quite respectable performances.

LuS1fer

41,512 posts

250 months

Wednesday 6th June 2012
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roscobbc said:
I know that even current model Mustang with 6 pot is considered somewhat 'effete' certainly compared with the V8 alternatives - in fact they can give quite respectable performances.
Both V6 versions of Mustang and Camaro pump out over 300hp which is more than the old 4.6 V8 originally put out in 2005. Granted, it's not as woofly but it is pretty fast. the other thing is that Ford used to deliberately down-spec the Mustang V6 (as did GM in the past) and didn't even fit a rear anti-roll bar. nowadays i think they take their handling a bit more seriously and the V6 can be had for as little as $23k making it a bargain in its home town.

tortop45

434 posts

165 months

Wednesday 6th June 2012
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Regiment said:
It was really just to look at what my options were, especially in relation to finance and deposits, etc and which will be easier. I don't mind the hassle of importing but again dependant on if I can sort some sort of finance out for end of next year when I should have a large deposit.

On top of the car, need to sort a deposit out for a mortgage as well, all part of "growing up".
The chepest way to finance your news toy is to borrow more than you need on you mortgage,its the best way to get a low interest rate and pay for it that way.

PascalBuyens

2,868 posts

287 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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LuS1fer said:
Both V6 versions of Mustang and Camaro pump out over 300hp which is more than the old 4.6 V8 originally put out in 2005. Granted, it's not as woofly but it is pretty fast. the other thing is that Ford used to deliberately down-spec the Mustang V6 (as did GM in the past) and didn't even fit a rear anti-roll bar. nowadays i think they take their handling a bit more seriously and the V6 can be had for as little as $23k making it a bargain in its home town.
Sis has a CTS-4 which has the same V6 as the Camaro... pretty fast car indeed. Not as fast as the Camaro, but then again... I've got almost the double on hp LOL

LuS1fer

41,512 posts

250 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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I've always fancied a Caddy CTS-V or even a 3.6 but, hey, there's another car GM left high and dry when they pulled out faster than a 16 year old with a 2 bit we.