Camaro engine swap
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Hey guys, need a bit of advice....
I have the oportunity of getting my hands on a 2009 camaro 1LT 3.6L v6 for a very good price.....the issue is that the engine a completely shot and I'm told it will need replacing.
I was wondering if I had any options of other engines fitting to this car & mating to the auto gearbox? I was actuall thinking of a smaller engine (2 - 2.5L). An ideas of engines easily available in Uk which would be easy to fit???
Cheers.
I have the oportunity of getting my hands on a 2009 camaro 1LT 3.6L v6 for a very good price.....the issue is that the engine a completely shot and I'm told it will need replacing.
I was wondering if I had any options of other engines fitting to this car & mating to the auto gearbox? I was actuall thinking of a smaller engine (2 - 2.5L). An ideas of engines easily available in Uk which would be easy to fit???
Cheers.
The 3.6 in the Camaro is or should be the same as the Cadillac CTS which came in 2.8 and 3.6 varieties from 2005-2009. However, I don't know whether these will fit easily and the CTS tends to keep it's price so you'd be looking for a scrapper.
It is a RWD car so in theory they should be similar but they are different platforms - the CTS is a derivation of the old Omega platform so you might have sump shape issues, I don't know.
The other issue is that these modern cars have ECUs and myriad sensors which may not hook up to a different or older engine.
It is a RWD car so in theory they should be similar but they are different platforms - the CTS is a derivation of the old Omega platform so you might have sump shape issues, I don't know.
The other issue is that these modern cars have ECUs and myriad sensors which may not hook up to a different or older engine.
The cape said:
Hey guys, need a bit of advice....
I have the oportunity of getting my hands on a 2009 camaro 1LT 3.6L v6 for a very good price.....the issue is that the engine a completely shot and I'm told it will need replacing.
I was wondering if I had any options of other engines fitting to this car & mating to the auto gearbox? I was actuall thinking of a smaller engine (2 - 2.5L). An ideas of engines easily available in Uk which would be easy to fit???
Cheers.
best way is find the same engine or basic long block swaping these electronic controled engines for something else isnt easy unless you have all of the wiring loom and ecu/s, maybe someone is breaking one maybe worth trying oldcott motors in stoke on trent they sometimes have that sort of thing... smaller engine is a no no will be horrid on fuel and to drive in what is quite a heavy car...I have the oportunity of getting my hands on a 2009 camaro 1LT 3.6L v6 for a very good price.....the issue is that the engine a completely shot and I'm told it will need replacing.
I was wondering if I had any options of other engines fitting to this car & mating to the auto gearbox? I was actuall thinking of a smaller engine (2 - 2.5L). An ideas of engines easily available in Uk which would be easy to fit???
Cheers.
If you cut a fairly large hole in the footwell you can do away with the internal combustion engine altogether.HTHThe Camaro is an 1800kg car - the only way you would get better economy is by fitting a diesel which we would have to hunt you down and kill you for. 
The 3.6 is a modern direct injection engine which is by no means thirsty and as good as a Focus ST or Subaru and can achieve 22-35mpg dependent on use of the throttle.
You'd be better off buying a RHD 2005 Cadillac CTS 3.6 for about £5k and get much the same thing that you can afford to run.
Putting any other engine in the Camaro would make it pretty much worthless on resale.
The 3.6 is a modern direct injection engine which is by no means thirsty and as good as a Focus ST or Subaru and can achieve 22-35mpg dependent on use of the throttle.
You'd be better off buying a RHD 2005 Cadillac CTS 3.6 for about £5k and get much the same thing that you can afford to run.
Putting any other engine in the Camaro would make it pretty much worthless on resale.
How bad could this engine be? Seems a little extreme buying a whole car just for an engine that may have fit/sensor issues. Plus, in the UK, can you install an older engine leaglly?
Would'nt make more sence to buy just the parts you need?
Any Camaro with an auto, even the eight, feels very slow, seat of the pants at least.
Would'nt make more sence to buy just the parts you need?
Any Camaro with an auto, even the eight, feels very slow, seat of the pants at least.
Edited by OLDS on Wednesday 22 February 12:50
If it were me Id look for a wreak and buy the engine from that.
Or repair the current one. IIRC though they are direct injection, so pistons and so forth will be application specific. But US GM parts suppliers should be able to help out there. What exactly is wrong with the engine!? Spun bearing, or broken ring etc?
Definitely do not soil it with a 4 banger or other heinous crime.
Or repair the current one. IIRC though they are direct injection, so pistons and so forth will be application specific. But US GM parts suppliers should be able to help out there. What exactly is wrong with the engine!? Spun bearing, or broken ring etc?
Definitely do not soil it with a 4 banger or other heinous crime.
An 09 with a shot engine.
Drivetrain warranty from GM ???
Anyhow, I've driven the V6, it is not slow, it however sounds aweful and is a totally different car to the SS.
Even if you put the 6.2 in there it would still not be an SS for purposes of resale.
Also if you are not doing this yourself, then the cost of a non similar swap is much higher than a replacement lump.
For an 09 to have a shot motor, it must have had a negligent owner, you have to consider the mech condition of the rest of the car before you pump money into it.
Oh boy .....Just re read it you were going down in engine size,
Don't waste your money you will lose out on gas mileage big time. The Chevy motors are quite efficient.
Drivetrain warranty from GM ???
Anyhow, I've driven the V6, it is not slow, it however sounds aweful and is a totally different car to the SS.
Even if you put the 6.2 in there it would still not be an SS for purposes of resale.
Also if you are not doing this yourself, then the cost of a non similar swap is much higher than a replacement lump.
For an 09 to have a shot motor, it must have had a negligent owner, you have to consider the mech condition of the rest of the car before you pump money into it.
Oh boy .....Just re read it you were going down in engine size,
Don't waste your money you will lose out on gas mileage big time. The Chevy motors are quite efficient.
Edited by jeff m2 on Friday 24th February 16:48
Several years ago when I ran an American car garage, I had a customer with a 3 year old Chevy Astro with a completely destroyed V6, it had thrown a rod out the side of the block, it had NEVER had an oil change, probably not even been topped up from new. The guy who brought it in was an American who's wife was in the USAF. I spotted him at work one day, sweeping the car park at McDonalds, go figure.
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