Nasty squeaky belt noise on cold starting 1.8

Nasty squeaky belt noise on cold starting 1.8

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Johnnytheboy

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24,498 posts

192 months

Monday 22nd March 2010
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Mrs Theboy's mk1 1.8 has started making a nasty squeak on starting up for the first time after 2+ days of no use. The classic belt/water pump noise, but only for ~10 seconds, then it's fine. The kind of fault that's very hard to replicate when I take it to a mechanic, as it's no longer cold.

1. What is this likely to be? Belt/tensioner? Water pump? I know nothing about MX-5 mechanicals so don't flame me for ignorance!

2. Is it worth dealing with now, or waiting ~1,400 miles to the next service?

TwistingMyMelon

6,390 posts

211 months

Monday 22nd March 2010
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Probs the alternator belt, squeaking because of the extra initial load on the battery.

Mine did it very occasionaly when the temp was about zero or bellow when starting up for about 3-10 seconds

I just checked I put at little load on the battery when starting and in the initial 20 seconds ie: no radio, lights, blowers etc

Or just change the PAS and alternator belts on the car, its quite a straightforward job for you or a mechanic.

Johnnytheboy

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24,498 posts

192 months

Monday 22nd March 2010
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Thanks, I might do that.

Fruitcake

3,850 posts

232 months

Monday 22nd March 2010
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My mum's 1.8 did that. My dad changed the belt and adjusted the position of the alternator slightly to make the belt sit taught.

She tends not to start cars with any additional load (so no lights, radio, wipers etc and a dipped clutch) but until the belt was changed, it always did it, no matter what.

gd49

302 posts

177 months

Saturday 27th March 2010
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My Mk2.5 was making a similar noise for the past few months, worst when it was coldest. Yesterday the check engine light came on, and on the way to the garage this morning the alternator/battery light came on too. Had a look under the bonnet, alternator belt had snapped. Only just made it to the garage before the battery died completely.

I did over 1000 miles with the alternator belt making that noise, so I think you'll be ok to wait till the next service as long as the check engine light doesn't come on (if Mk1's have those?), if it does get to a garage soon.

Gizmo!

18,150 posts

215 months

Saturday 27th March 2010
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Good news is the MX5 has a non-interference engine...

dylan0451

1,040 posts

197 months

Saturday 27th March 2010
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scratchchin

while that does appear to be a true statement, what does that have to do with a slipping aux belt?

if the edges appear perished, or the load side looks worn then replace it, if not just tighten it up a bit - as the belt wears, the inner side will gain a longer circumference, hence tension starts to reduce

tighten it just so as you can twist the longest length only about 90 degrees as it should be fine

Gizmo!

18,150 posts

215 months

Saturday 27th March 2010
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dylan0451 said:
scratchchin

while that does appear to be a true statement, what does that have to do with a slipping aux belt?
Is it not the same belt as the cambelt? I haven't spent much time under my bonnet so I'm not sure hehe

Johnnytheboy

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24,498 posts

192 months

Saturday 27th March 2010
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BTW what's the cambelt change frequency on the 1.8?

Think that may be due shortly too.

_Batty_

12,268 posts

256 months

Sunday 28th March 2010
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Gizmo! said:
dylan0451 said:
scratchchin

while that does appear to be a true statement, what does that have to do with a slipping aux belt?
Is it not the same belt as the cambelt? I haven't spent much time under my bonnet so I'm not sure hehe
no no no hehe
totally unrelated on any car smile

NeoVR

436 posts

177 months

Monday 29th March 2010
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Mine lets out a little chirp on cold starts, im not really fussed about it until it does it for more than a couple of seconds

It is very easy to tension them:

Remove the pipe between the airfilter and intake manifold.. the alternator is below the intake (on the left looking at the engine head on) loosten the adjuster bolt that faces forward on the top of the alternator, then tighten the bolt on the left-top side a couple of turns. as a guide if you try to twist the belt, you it should only twist around 45 degrees..
Its a less than 10 minute job start to finish.

Tazza 10

7 posts

124 months

Thursday 19th June 2014
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NeoVR your a star, just read your message regarding tightening alternator belt on MX5. just did it and was so easy to do. Ten minutes was bang on when I found the right socket lol. Many thanks Terry

feef

5,206 posts

189 months

Friday 20th June 2014
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Johnnytheboy said:
BTW what's the cambelt change frequency on the 1.8?

Think that may be due shortly too.
On the mk2, it's every 6 years or 54,000 miles.