Origional Japanese space saver.....

Origional Japanese space saver.....

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Dan_1981

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17,511 posts

205 months

Thursday 28th January 2010
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I've never paid much attention to my spare as I also have a tin of tyre weld in the car.

However today whilst drying out the boot i removed the spare.

Its still in its faux leather cover and is an origional Japanese 14" space saver - complete with Japanese tyre and Japanses stickers etc all over it.

Its now 15 years old so I wouldn't want to do many miles on it, especially as the car currently has 15" wheels on it.

Anyway - I don't suppose its o much value is it to the true Jap fan?

FELIX_5

957 posts

203 months

Thursday 28th January 2010
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Not really, scrap yards/ebay are littered with them, I've even got one in my shed!!

MX-5 Lazza

7,952 posts

225 months

Thursday 28th January 2010
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The size doesn't matter. They all have the same spare regardless of wheel size.

Chapppers

4,483 posts

197 months

Thursday 28th January 2010
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Actually come to mention it, with a car that's quite limited in on space, are there any other options to consider? Perhaps a can of tyre weld and an inflator? Would free up a small amount of boot space (specially if the space saver is well past it anyway)

J-Tuner

2,855 posts

249 months

Thursday 28th January 2010
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I considered losing my little beige wheel of love but i like the people who fit my Tyres (WiM) and i don't think they would appreciate all of that tyre weld ste that must get on them when taking the tyre off...

OllieWinchester

5,677 posts

198 months

Thursday 28th January 2010
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I've always though it would be a laugh to fit four of the things and have a play about in a car park/airfield or something.

Gizmo!

18,150 posts

215 months

Thursday 28th January 2010
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OllieWinchester said:
I've always though it would be a laugh to fit four of the things and have a play about in a car park/airfield or something.
Oooh. scratchchin
Home-made skidpan training...

FELIX_5

957 posts

203 months

Thursday 28th January 2010
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I've ditched my space saver in favour of a can of tyre weld type stuff. Should shave a fews secs off my 0-60 time!! paperbaghehe

Edited by FELIX_5 on Thursday 28th January 19:02

GravelBen

15,860 posts

236 months

Thursday 28th January 2010
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Chapppers said:
Actually come to mention it, with a car that's quite limited in on space, are there any other options to consider? Perhaps a can of tyre weld and an inflator? Would free up a small amount of boot space (specially if the space saver is well past it anyway)
A few people swap to a non-factory (and much lighter) exhaust that exits on the left instead of crossing to the right, and then mount the spare wheel under the car using the same thread its holder screws into in the boot.

dylan0451

1,040 posts

197 months

Thursday 28th January 2010
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that sounds interesting, i can't remember what it looks like now but isn't the rear subframe in the way? Re. Using the space saver with 15" wheels, i'm pretty sure it'd cause big issues with lsd cars, well, i guess it'd boil viscous couplings and wear clutch packs if run for any length of mileage... My space saver complete with knobbly off road tyre is over 20 years old and 20 kgs - i'd happily just get some tyre weld but i thought that stuff ruins a tyre to the point it has to be thrown away?

MX-5 Lazza

7,952 posts

225 months

Friday 29th January 2010
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The outside diameter of 185/65/14 & 195/50/15 is pretty much the same so wheel size doesn't matter, especially at under 50mph.
The space saver spare should never be fitted on the back axle anyway as any long-term speed inconsistency can damage a dif (not just lsd).

ETA: The Mk3 doesn't have a spare, just a can of tyre weld. I think it's a generally accepted thing now and good tyre dealers don't hate it like they used to (the product has probably improved too). All you need is the tyre weld - you don't need an inflater too.

Edited by MX-5 Lazza on Friday 29th January 09:03

TwistingMyMelon

6,390 posts

211 months

Friday 29th January 2010
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I took mine out years ago, makes the boot almost bearable and I notice the weight difference under acceleration, although it does affect weight distribution over the rear wheels!!

tuttle

3,427 posts

243 months

Friday 29th January 2010
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MX-5 Lazza said:
ETA: The Mk3 doesn't have a spare, just a can of tyre weld. I think it's a generally accepted thing now and good tyre dealers don't hate it like they used to (the product has probably improved too). All you need is the tyre weld - you don't need an inflater too.

Edited by MX-5 Lazza on Friday 29th January 09:03
scratchchin Hmmm probably just showing my age here. Isn't the presence of a servicable & inflated spare tyre an MOT requirement? Will a can of tyre weld stuff suffice?

Chapppers

4,483 posts

197 months

Friday 29th January 2010
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tuttle said:
MX-5 Lazza said:
ETA: The Mk3 doesn't have a spare, just a can of tyre weld. I think it's a generally accepted thing now and good tyre dealers don't hate it like they used to (the product has probably improved too). All you need is the tyre weld - you don't need an inflater too.

Edited by MX-5 Lazza on Friday 29th January 09:03
scratchchin Hmmm probably just showing my age here. Isn't the presence of a servicable & inflated spare tyre an MOT requirement? Will a can of tyre weld stuff suffice?
Nope, a can of tyre weld comes as standard on a Mk1 Focus RS (and a lot of other cars I should imagine.

FELIX_5

957 posts

203 months

Friday 29th January 2010
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tuttle said:
MX-5 Lazza said:
ETA: The Mk3 doesn't have a spare, just a can of tyre weld. I think it's a generally accepted thing now and good tyre dealers don't hate it like they used to (the product has probably improved too). All you need is the tyre weld - you don't need an inflater too.

Edited by MX-5 Lazza on Friday 29th January 09:03
scratchchin Hmmm probably just showing my age here. Isn't the presence of a servicable & inflated spare tyre an MOT requirement? Will a can of tyre weld stuff suffice?
Regarding mot, if there is a spare, it must have legal tread, BUT, you can pass an mot without a spare wheel! some people actually take their spare wheel out for mot if they think the tread is 'dodgey'. Not great practice obviously, but you don't need a spare wheel to pass an mot...... hth

I Am Milk

1,067 posts

210 months

Friday 29th January 2010
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Another thing to consider if removing the spare wheel, is that a can of tyre weld can't fix a big hole.

NiceCupOfTea

25,305 posts

257 months

Monday 1st February 2010
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I must admit that I have considered taking mine out, it takes a huge chunk out of the boot.

Likewise I'm not sure I would even trust the unused 16 year old spacesaver for even a short <50mph journey.

Last time I had a slow puncture (losing 3 or 4 PSI a day) I stayed on the punctured tyre and kept pumping it up until I could get a replacement rather than use the spacesaver.

There's also the problem that, unless you are running with a completely empty boot, where the hell do you put the full sized wheel!?

Chapppers

4,483 posts

197 months

Monday 1st February 2010
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NiceCupOfTea said:
There's also the problem that, unless you are running with a completely empty boot, where the hell do you put the full sized wheel!?
Ha! Well I have the last laugh in that case because my boot leaks so badly I can't put anything in there.