Best place to buy BRAKES?

[FELIX_5]

I've currently got drilled and grooved discs on the rear of my MK1 1.6. I discovered at the weekend I had two cracks in the N/S/R disc!!!!

I'm looking to replace them like for like, but wheres the best place to buy drilled and grooved discs? MX5 PARTS are about £100, didn't know if anyone knew of anywhere cheaper off hand???

Thanks in advance........

[MX-5 Lazza]

Don't bother. Save your money and get plain discs. Drilled & grooved discs add nothing except noise.
I had drilled & grooved front discs on my old Mk1 and hated them. I have plain discs on my current car and they are plenty good enough even for the heavy track use I put them through.

[pmanson]

I use Autolink for parts on a regular basis.

Really happy with the service and Andrew knows his 5s

[bluetone]

On the subject of changing discs, I was going to replace the rears on mine the other week but couldn't get the old disc off the hub for love nor money; seemed welded/corroded in-place Anyone got any handy hints for this situation?

Cheers!
Ian

[skinny]

hammer-time

[MX-5 Lazza]

Isn't there a screw hole in the disc for this purpose?

[OllieWinchester]

I'm sure the plain non Mazda discs are less than £30 from www.MX5parts.com



Bargain.

[speedychrissie]

bluetone said:

On the subject of changing discs, I was going to replace the rears on mine the other week but couldn't get the old disc off the hub for love nor money; seemed welded/corroded in-place Anyone got any handy hints for this situation?

Cheers!
Ian

I had the same problem when I tried to get my brakes off. a previous poster is right that there is a threaded hole you can use. find a bolt that goes into it and gently screw it in with a socket set. it should force the disc away from the hub enough to break the seal.


and to the OP:
why do you specifically want grooved and drilled discs? have you massively increased the power or is it purely aesthetics? as others have said, the plain discs on a standard 1.6 cope perfectly fine even under hard track work (I have been to anglesey, donnington and the ring with mine and never felt any fade).

[MX-5 Lazza]

I have 230bhp and have no problem with plain discs and Axiss Ultimate pads

[bluetone]

speedychrissie said:

bluetone said:

On the subject of changing discs, I was going to replace the rears on mine the other week but couldn't get the old disc off the hub for love nor money; seemed welded/corroded in-place Anyone got any handy hints for this situation?

Cheers!
Ian

I had the same problem when I tried to get my brakes off. a previous poster is right that there is a threaded hole you can use. find a bolt that goes into it and gently screw it in with a socket set. it should force the disc away from the hub enough to break the seal.

and to the OP:
why do you specifically want grooved and drilled discs? have you massively increased the power or is it purely aesthetics? as others have said, the plain discs on a standard 1.6 cope perfectly fine even under hard track work (I have been to anglesey, donnington and the ring with mine and never felt any fade).

Thanks (and to MX5-Lazza also) for the tip. I have the replacement discs from MX5 parts and they were pretty reasonable too Will have a shufty at this threaded hole next time the wheels are off.

In my experience, the best quick/cheap service for the brakes is to change the fluid if not new or of indeterminate vintage (and make sure there are no bubbles in the system in the process )

Thanks again for the advice chaps!

Ian

[Spooks]

MX-5 Lazza said:

I have 230bhp and have no problem with plain discs and Axiss Ultimate pads

How do you find those pads, been looking at buying them from P5.

Does my wee Euphonic need sports pads and disc or standard size? I know that my car is effectivly a sport with a 5 speeder so I assume sports.

[MX-5 Lazza]

Axiss Ultimate pads are great. They work really well on the track with great bite & feel and no fading. They bite much harder than Mazda pads too. On the road they are also much better than Mazda pads as they retain all that bite & feel even from cold (unlike a lot of other track oriented pads).
The only real downsides are quite heavy dusting (certainly compared to Mazda pads) and they can squeak. They are definitely worth any downside though.

I compare them to Mazda pads as IMO they are the only other pads worth using. EBC Yellowstuff are pretty good on track but need heating up so they aren't so good on the road. Mintex 1144 are probably equal or possibly slight better than Axiss Ultimates but are much more expensive for little if any gain (from what I've heard from others - I haven't tried them myself). Don't even think about EBC Greenstuff or Kevlars

[speedychrissie]

MX-5 Lazza said:

Don't even think about EBC Greenstuff or Kevlars

That is interesting. Why do you say avoid the Kevlars?

I fitted them to my car after a few recommendations and have found them to be excellent. Admittedly I am not pitting them against the same fire-power you are but I honestly dont have a bad word to say about them.

[bluetone]

MX-5 Lazza said:

Axiss Ultimate pads are great. They work really well on the track with great bite & feel and no fading. They bite much harder than Mazda pads too. On the road they are also much better than Mazda pads as they retain all that bite & feel even from cold (unlike a lot of other track oriented pads).
The only real downsides are quite heavy dusting (certainly compared to Mazda pads) and they can squeak. They are definitely worth any downside though.

I compare them to Mazda pads as IMO they are the only other pads worth using. EBC Yellowstuff are pretty good on track but need heating up so they aren't so good on the road. Mintex 1144 are probably equal or possibly slight better than Axiss Ultimates but are much more expensive for little if any gain (from what I've heard from others - I haven't tried them myself). Don't even think about EBC Greenstuff or Kevlars

How bad is the squealing when cold MX5-Lazza? I had some Mintex pads and discs fitted to an Integrale EVO2 I had many moons a go and I had to get them taken off as they were WAY too noisey - to the point of pedestrians complaining (loudly!) LOL!!

How much worse is the wear-rate? I'd like to think I could get a year's worth (10,000 miles) of road-use out of a set of pads...

[Blackbullet]

bluetone said:

MX-5 Lazza said:

Axiss Ultimate pads are great. They work really well on the track with great bite & feel and no fading. They bite much harder than Mazda pads too. On the road they are also much better than Mazda pads as they retain all that bite & feel even from cold (unlike a lot of other track oriented pads).
The only real downsides are quite heavy dusting (certainly compared to Mazda pads) and they can squeak. They are definitely worth any downside though.

I compare them to Mazda pads as IMO they are the only other pads worth using. EBC Yellowstuff are pretty good on track but need heating up so they aren't so good on the road. Mintex 1144 are probably equal or possibly slight better than Axiss Ultimates but are much more expensive for little if any gain (from what I've heard from others - I haven't tried them myself). Don't even think about EBC Greenstuff or Kevlars

How bad is the squealing when cold MX5-Lazza? I had some Mintex pads and discs fitted to an Integrale EVO2 I had many moons a go and I had to get them taken off as they were WAY too noisey - to the point of pedestrians complaining (loudly!) LOL!!

How much worse is the wear-rate? I'd like to think I could get a year's worth (10,000 miles) of road-use out of a set of pads...

I've had the Axiss Ultimates fitted since last Summer/Autumn. Bought the car a few months earlier and it had the Greenstuff. Wanted to do a TD before the year was out, so decided to change all pads, as the rears were a little low. Found the initial bite from cold a lot stronger and at Abingdon there were no signs of fade. Very impressive. When doing town work you can actually hear them working against the disc, which I don't think happened with the EBC. Might put some people off but I kinda like it . Had no real squealing but of late I do hear the odd tweet when I release the brake, however that could be something else entirely!

[MX-5 Lazza]

Most don't squeak at all. On my car I get a squeak when just driving along (i.e. when NOT on the brakes) but I'm the only person I've ever met who has had that particular problem. I believe Skinny gets a slight squeak on initial bite on light braking. It really is a small thing if it happens at all though so don't let it put you off.

Wear rate doesn't seem any worse than other pads. You might get through discs a little quicker if you do track work but discs are cheap.

EBC Greenstuff are inconsistent and Kevlars are just a bit poor - certainly not as good as stock Mazda pads. We have Kevlars on the PlanetMX5 Motorsports car (1.6 brakes) and while they work ok enough on the track, on the road they are shockingly bad - completely lifeless and with no bite.

[skinny]

please just avoid kevlars - there are enough people with bad things to say (myself included) that it's just not worth getting them. if you aren't tracking it, then genuine mazda pads are the best you can get probably.

i've tried mintex M1144 and i preferred them very slightly to the axxiss ultimates, but the price of the rears means that it's just not worth it, there's really very little in it. as laz says, mine squeak on light to medium braking but that's probably because i don't have backing plates and the pads are getting low.

and as above, stock (genuine) mazda discs are fine, no probs at all no matter how hard you push it.

Edited by skinny on Monday 9th March 11:05