Occasionally not firing on one cyclinder when starting

Occasionally not firing on one cyclinder when starting

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Dakkon

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7,826 posts

260 months

Monday 12th January 2009
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Hi,

My friend has a Mk2 1.6 Califonia, recently when you start the car it will only be firing on three cylinders, turn the engine off, restart and then all is well.

Now, this did not happen every time, but recently it has been getting more frequent, new leads and plugs over Christmas and the problem went away completely until yesterday when every time the car was started it was only with three cylinders.

There is also a really bad smell, almost clutch like, but as this is when starting the car and not from slipping the clutch when pulling away I am not sure what that might be.

Any thoughts greatly appreciated.

MX-5 Lazza

7,954 posts

226 months

Monday 12th January 2009
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Sure it's 3 and not 2 cylinders? If it's running on 2 then it's probably the coil-pack.

Dakkon

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7,826 posts

260 months

Monday 12th January 2009
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Yes it is possible that it could be just two cylinders

franv8

2,212 posts

245 months

Monday 12th January 2009
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This is similar behaviour to when my head cracked - are you losing (only a little) more coolant than you used to?

MX-5 Lazza

7,954 posts

226 months

Monday 12th January 2009
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Coil pack is more likely and more common. Not sure how you test them other than just replacing though.

Dakkon

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7,826 posts

260 months

Tuesday 13th January 2009
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Well I will start with a replacement coil pack and see if that cures it, thanks for the responses.

zac510

5,546 posts

213 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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It wouldn't idle at all if it was only running on 2 cylinders.

MX-5 Lazza

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226 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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zac510 said:
It wouldn't idle at all if it was only running on 2 cylinders.
Mine does. Just. Very lumpy but alive.

zac510

5,546 posts

213 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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I suppose it depends which two! biggrin

Often what sounds like 'running on 3' can just be a vacuum leak and subsequent bad idle. It's a pretty poor and loose slang term unfortunately.

If you pull a plug lead/coil off one cylinder while running and the idle does not change at all then you have diagnosed that cylinder as not sparking or not fuelling. If when disabling each cylinder one at a time they each affect the idle in some way then it's nothing to do with the spark or fuel of a single cylinder. It's something else.

MX-5 Lazza

7,954 posts

226 months

Thursday 15th January 2009
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There are 2 coils running a "wasted spark" system i.e. each spark-plug fires before the combustion and intake strokes. One feeds 1 + 4, the other feeds 2 + 3. So it's easy enough to test for a dead coil - 2 cylinders will be dead. Not sure how you test for a sick but not dead coil though.

zac510

5,546 posts

213 months

Thursday 15th January 2009
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Yeah. That doesn't really sound like the problem here!