What's so wrong with the RX8?

What's so wrong with the RX8?

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driverrob

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4,753 posts

210 months

Wednesday 9th July 2008
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We get quite a few each week at the auction; usually no more than a couple of years old and never faulty or damaged, as far as I know. This alone is a bit strange.
Today we had 6 or 7 of them!
They usually sell. The ones I've driven seem practical, comfy and 'brisk', if a bit prone to going sideways on smooth tarmac. Would this be why we get to sell them on, instead of local showrooms?

Munter

31,326 posts

248 months

Wednesday 9th July 2008
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They have a serious drink habit. That and the "unknown" engine technology to a lot of people.

Nothing "wrong" with them though so long as the previous owner has kept the oil topped up.

Wadeski

8,340 posts

220 months

Wednesday 9th July 2008
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they will be in the top tax band wont they? they chuck c02 out like nobodies business.

anonymous-user

61 months

Wednesday 9th July 2008
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Yup, difficult to shift at present. £400 a year tax is nigh and < 20mpg economy is not good with current prices. People's "memory" of the RX7 needing rebuilds and using lots of oil also put people off despite not being hugely relevant to the '8.

vRSLen

25 posts

207 months

Wednesday 9th July 2008
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I think the main problem is the lack of power for the type of car it is......

anonymous-user

61 months

Thursday 10th July 2008
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vRSLen said:
I think the main problem is the lack of power for the type of car it is......
Yes, 230bhp in a 4 door, 4 seat £20k coupe is obviously so underpowered. rolleyes

hornetrider

63,161 posts

212 months

Thursday 10th July 2008
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Must admit I'm surprised at how little these are going for, even the desirable 230 brake version.

It's depressing as we are searching Mazda listings for a new or nearly new Mazda2 Sport and RX8's are coming up in the same price bracket (albeit on 55 plates with about 20-30k miles).

I wish the mrs would drive a bigger car!! hehe

skinny

5,269 posts

242 months

Thursday 10th July 2008
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there's nothing wrong with the rx8 necessarily, just a lack of oil in the world...

Wadeski

8,340 posts

220 months

Thursday 10th July 2008
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230hp isnt the whole story though - the lack of torque makes it feel gutless in day to day driving. not everyone wants to redline all the time!

also most of the competitor super-hatches are turbo'd (Focus ST, Megane RS, Golf GTi etc) so have far more midrange punch.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

212 months

Thursday 10th July 2008
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Wadeski said:
230hp isnt the whole story though - the lack of torque makes it feel gutless in day to day driving. not everyone wants to redline all the time!

also most of the competitor super-hatches are turbo'd (Focus ST, Megane RS, Golf GTi etc) so have far more midrange punch.
Hmmm, I wouldn't put the RX8 in competition with those cars. More like a 3 series coupe rival?

Wadeski

8,340 posts

220 months

Thursday 10th July 2008
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mb...Alfa GT, 3er coupe i suppose is a fair comparison.

for the same thirst and Co2 you get more torque with the competition. And with everyone getting used to TDi levels of mid-range....

anonymous-user

61 months

Thursday 10th July 2008
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If you don't want to redline it then don't buy a rotary. There is plenty of torque - that's what gearing and 9,000 revs is for. You'd need to go for a 325 to get to a similar 0-60 and (for what it's worth) an E46 M3 to get the same Top Gear laptime. That's not exactly regarded as gutless is it? Torque at the wheels will make the car go. The characteristics of the engine will determine the gearing which will determine the torque at the wheels. A turbo diesel that produces bags of torque at low revs needs long gears so doesn't get the torque multiplication that a rotary or VTEC can get by running shorter gearing.

apprentice

1,219 posts

267 months

Friday 11th July 2008
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'Supply and demand'... there's a lot of 'em out there in the trade and this was reflected in two massive successive recent book drops for late registered cars.

Also the '4 door coupe appearance' is no longer fresh and the previously stated emissions and woeful mpg are stalling buyers. They will however reach a base price that will be too hard to ignore - still a cracking car! IMHO

apprentice


Wadeski

8,340 posts

220 months

Saturday 12th July 2008
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a friend of mine was offered a BRAND NEW Rx8 231bhp with leather etc for...

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SIXTEEN GRAND.

at a London mazda dealership. thats insane!


Jonny671

29,524 posts

196 months

Wednesday 16th July 2008
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Maybe it's also abit because the new "RX8 R3" is coming out in a few weeks too? smile

Munter

31,326 posts

248 months

Wednesday 16th July 2008
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Wadeski said:
a friend of mine was offered a BRAND NEW Rx8 231bhp with leather etc for...

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SIXTEEN GRAND.

at a London mazda dealership. thats insane!
hehe Thats the same price Nanjing (sp) are hopeing to sell the MGTF for when they restart production....

Pentoman

4,818 posts

270 months

Wednesday 16th July 2008
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Munter said:
Wadeski said:
a friend of mine was offered a BRAND NEW Rx8 231bhp with leather etc for...

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SIXTEEN GRAND.

at a London mazda dealership. thats insane!
hehe Thats the same price Nanjing (sp) are hopeing to sell the MGTF for when they restart production....
Yet even that might be a safer bet!!

968CSReading

3,038 posts

225 months

Thursday 17th July 2008
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vRSLen said:
I think the main problem is the lack of power for the type of car it is......
Its never been a car for straight line speed, its about handling. Remember it was as quick as the old shape M3 round the top gear track.

If (like me) you need rear seats its a nice alternative to 3 series coupe etc. Oil consumption not as bad as they all say, fuel consumption.....is. Luckily I dont have to pay for mine so its round to the 9K beep as much as possible,

PhillipM

6,529 posts

196 months

Thursday 17th July 2008
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Nothing wrong with the RX8, it makes a fantasic donor car yes

anonymous-user

61 months

Thursday 17th July 2008
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PhillipM said:
Nothing wrong with the RX8, it makes a fantasic donor car yes
For what? I'm still debating the repair/break decision on mine.