MX5 tuning firms

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chris71

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21,548 posts

249 months

Monday 19th March 2007
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Hi,

Saw the V8 conversion thread and remembered a similar thing I was pondering. Are there any companys doing turn-key MX5 upgrades of any sort? What got me thinking was this image....



How good would it be if you could get a small rear wheel drive coupe, with better handling than the Mk3 MX5 offers, a bit more performance, much greater practicality (care of the hatchback) and something with a rather more bespoke feel. I've always liked the idea of starting up a re-engineering company like Alpina do for BMW or Lister did for Jaguars in the 80s.

Oh well, that's another thing on my 'things to get me out of working for someone else' list

Wigeon Incognito

3,274 posts

225 months

Monday 19th March 2007
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Z3 M Coupe and Z4 Coupe/M Coupe?

They would be nicer at MX-5 prices and running costs though! I've been tempted by a Z3 M Coupe for some time now but the running costs are my biggest fear.

risotto

3,929 posts

219 months

Tuesday 20th March 2007
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Are there any Mk2 MX-5 coupes on the road in the UK? Not sure if it's possible to get one through the ESVA but it might make a good base for that sort of thing.

chris71

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21,548 posts

249 months

Tuesday 20th March 2007
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Not aware of them if there are. Thought they looked nice though.

Have seen a few MX5 body conversions to make your car look a little bit like something else (I think replica would be too strong a word!) but the styling was mixed to say the least - think I saw one that was quite nice, the rest just looked like a cartoon of their chosen 'inspiration'.

Just think theres a gap in the market for a practical sports car, almost like a mini 911 in terms of the 'drive to the shops' ethos. The Z3M style hatch back on that photoshopped one would dramatically increase the ammount of luggage space and the fixed head would add to the stiffness, reduce drag and improve security. Plus, I've got a bit of a thing for GT body styles!

Pierscoe1

2,458 posts

268 months

Tuesday 20th March 2007
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well... if you were to ever set up a company bringing in mk2 MX5 Coupes, and fitting them with, say, the jag/ford 3-litre V6... I'd buy one!!


one of these:


with this in the front:

(from here: www.miata.net/news/v6.html )


Edited by Pierscoe1 on Tuesday 20th March 21:30

chris71

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21,548 posts

249 months

Wednesday 21st March 2007
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Exactly - how cool would that be?

Right now I'd jump at an attractive coupe that went well, handled nicely, was reasonably spacious inside, compact on the outside and could be left out on the street with out the venom that parking a 3 series or Porsche 944 in public attracts! Set up a license with Mazda to re-badge them like Alpina do to the BMWs and the image concious wouldn't even have to worry about the characters "MX5" on the back!!

I'm told the MX5 engine isn't all that light, so a V6 transplant wouldn't be out the question. Failing that you could probably offer a conversion kit for... what? £10,000 - £1k for the suspension, £4k for a supercharger, £5k for a nice hardtop conversion and discrete re-trim. Might seem a lot for a '5, but you could comfortably end up with a sub £20k car, more civilsed than an elise, more focused than a 3 series coupe as fast as a 350Z/TT and more exclusive than any of them.

giryan

29 posts

218 months

Wednesday 21st March 2007
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chris71 said:
Exactly - how cool would that be?

Right now I'd jump at an attractive coupe that went well, handled nicely, was reasonably spacious inside, compact on the outside and could be left out on the street with out the venom that parking a 3 series or Porsche 944 in public attracts! Set up a license with Mazda to re-badge them like Alpina do to the BMWs and the image concious wouldn't even have to worry about the characters "MX5" on the back!!

I'm told the MX5 engine isn't all that light, so a V6 transplant wouldn't be out the question. Failing that you could probably offer a conversion kit for... what? £10,000 - £1k for the suspension, £4k for a supercharger, £5k for a nice hardtop conversion and discrete re-trim. Might seem a lot for a '5, but you could comfortably end up with a sub £20k car, more civilsed than an elise, more focused than a 3 series coupe as fast as a 350Z/TT and more exclusive than any of them.


4K for a Supercharger! Cool MOAB/Uber territory

chris71

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21,548 posts

249 months

Wednesday 21st March 2007
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Well, maybe that's overkill - based on a 'fully fitted' comercial price I heard and even that might have been rather expensive. Knock a grand off that for a big brake kit and some uprated tyres then and you still have roughly a £10,000 bill for turning an MX5 into a very nice little coupe. By second hand cars (obviously) with sound chasis but not a lot else (hood, original dampers, springs, brakes ect are all going to be changed) and sell on any reconditionable parts that are surplus to your requirments. Obviously get plenty of trade accounts, bulk buy discounts etc with your surpliers and bingo......

I'm sure that's a nieve pipe dream and I'm sure I'll never do that or anything like it, but still, sounds like a fun way to make a living

Scoobman

450 posts

212 months

Wednesday 21st March 2007
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www.performance5.com

Phil Dixon is the man there



Edited by Scoobman on Wednesday 21st March 18:48

Pierscoe1

2,458 posts

268 months

Saturday 24th March 2007
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chris71 said:
Exactly - how cool would that be?




Very!!! Do It!

chris71 said:

£5k for a nice hardtop conversion and discrete re-trim.


what's that based on?!?! do you know a good coachbuilder?

chris71

Original Poster:

21,548 posts

249 months

Monday 26th March 2007
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Pierscoe1 said:
chris71 said:
Exactly - how cool would that be?




Very!!! Do It!

chris71 said:

£5k for a nice hardtop conversion and discrete re-trim.


what's that based on?!?! do you know a good coachbuilder?


Nah - that's based on having the facilities to do it myself. This is pipe dreaming remember!

Just started up a limited company to handle my engineering contract and it would be nice to use it for something that get's me away from the office! Had all sorts of ideas, most, if not all of which I'll never get round to.

giryan

29 posts

218 months

Monday 26th March 2007
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Really really not wanting to rain on your parade (as I'd love one)
I think that quite a few people have thought about permanent hardtops, but keep getting told there's too much flex in the body to make retrofitting one a very good idea.

Pierscoe1

2,458 posts

268 months

Tuesday 27th March 2007
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....integral rollcage, a-la RUF/Vantage/etc... that's the way foreward.. it'd make it VERY stiff, and you could seam-weld the chassis too, then seam-weld the new roof panels onto the rollcage... job done!

...now where's that MIG I left lying around...

RedCabbage

3,606 posts

239 months

Sunday 1st April 2007
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Pierscoe1 said:
well... if you were to ever set up a company bringing in mk2 MX5 Coupes, and fitting them with, say, the jag/ford 3-litre V6... I'd buy one!!


one of these:



Edited by Pierscoe1 on Tuesday 20th March 21:30


Have any of these been brought into the UK?

Pierscoe1

2,458 posts

268 months

Monday 2nd April 2007
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not as far as I know...

I looked into it briefly.. it got into the high-teens (£ very quickly.. which made me think "hmm.. I'll buy an S2 Exige thanks"

trouble is they're so rare, prices are very high in Japan, even before you have to ship it, ESVA, Model Report etc etc

risotto

3,929 posts

219 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2007
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I've seen the odd one come up for auction in Japan but I think it would need a specific model report; I don't think you'd get it on the road using an existing report despite the fact that it's still an MX-5. I'd guess there aren't enough cars available to justify getting a new report made but I'm sure there'll be some over here in a few years when they hit their 10th birthday!

Trouble is, of the few hundred in existence, some are very basic & some have an ugly front. I forget which model is the desirable one (Type A?) but it'll be a job to find one.


Edited by risotto on Tuesday 3rd April 08:35

redgriff500

27,661 posts

270 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2007
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I'm not sure if the Simpson Design hard top ever made it into production, but that made the car look very coupe like.

Just googled for a decent image but couldn't find one.

Pierscoe1

2,458 posts

268 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2007
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looking coupe-like just doesn't do it for me... I want one as much for the structural rigidity (infact mostly for that) as the looks/cabin refinement etc...

Type-A is the one to get...

see my little shrine here:
www.zen100588.zen.co.uk/RS%20Coupe/rs_1.html

the yellow one (first thumbnail) is the type-A

RedCabbage

3,606 posts

239 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2007
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I think it's fantastic and I don't like red cars!

steve bowen

1,268 posts

231 months

Wednesday 4th April 2007
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RedCabbage said:
Pierscoe1 said:
well... if you were to ever set up a company bringing in mk2 MX5 Coupes, and fitting them with, say, the jag/ford 3-litre V6... I'd buy one!!


one of these:



Edited by Pierscoe1 on Tuesday 20th March 21:30


Have any of these been brought into the UK?


Thats a fantastic looking car, I'd definately have bought one if they were available here. The mk3 hardtop on the first page looks a dogs dinner.