MX5 NB - one rear wheel won't turn forwards

MX5 NB - one rear wheel won't turn forwards

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lobster940

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664 posts

162 months

Saturday 6th August 2022
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Our MX-5 NB is currently on a recovery lorry feeling rather sorry for itself. The rear offside wheel will not turn when the car is in first gear/being driven forwards. The rear nearside wheel spins happily.

Strangely, both wheels will roll when the car is being driven in reverse.

I am guessing a stuck brake calliper. Is there an easy fix, or does it just require a replacement calliper?

Annoyingly I replaced this same calliper last year. Maybe it was just defective. Maybe I cocked up the fitting - but it seems like a fairly straightforward, idiot proof job. Obviously I bled the brakes.

Thanks!

tendown

97 posts

138 months

Saturday 6th August 2022
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I had something similar a long time ago when a cockup on my part meant the caliper bolts were only finger tight, one bolt fell out and the wheel wouldn't rotate forwards but could go backwards

lobster940

Original Poster:

664 posts

162 months

Saturday 6th August 2022
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The wheel has just freed itself up being driven (forwards) off the recovery lorry.

Don't trust it not to stick again!

e21Keith

198 posts

37 months

Sunday 7th August 2022
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Probably worth jacking it up and taking the wheel off to have a look?

996Keef

435 posts

98 months

Sunday 7th August 2022
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Sounds like the caliper has come loose and is jamming on the wheel


lobster940

Original Poster:

664 posts

162 months

Saturday 10th September 2022
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Took me a while to get round to looking at this.

Replaced the "sticking" rear offside brake calliper. Replaced all brake pads for good measure.

Problem persists.

I reversed the car off my drive and drove 200 metres down the road (forwards). Tried some super low speed braking in forwards and reverse and it worked fine. Took the car up to 20mph and braked to a standstill. Horrible grinding noises from the rear end. Rear offside wheel won't spin forward. It will spin in reverse. Rear near side wheel spins freely.

Any idea what the problem might be if it isn't the brake?!

stan.kubrick

7 posts

102 months

Saturday 10th September 2022
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Does it have an LSD?

lobster940

Original Poster:

664 posts

162 months

Saturday 10th September 2022
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stan.kubrick said:
Does it have an LSD?
No.

Lincsls1

3,478 posts

147 months

Saturday 10th September 2022
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stan.kubrick said:
Does it have an LSD?
Yes, I'm thinking possibly a diff problem too if you've eliminated the brakes.

lobster940

Original Poster:

664 posts

162 months

Saturday 10th September 2022
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Could it be knackered brake lines?

I am intrigued as to why I overhauled the rear brakes, bled the replacement calliper, tested the braking at walking pace on the driveway, then when I took it out to the road up to third gear, there was the dreadful grinding noise from the rear end (which sounded like binding brakes).

There was a mild rubbing/grinding noise from the rear end when I was taking the car up to speed, foot not on the brake pedal.

I have adjusted the calliper piston on both rear brakes (using the H4 wind back mechanism) so the handbrake locks and unlocks the brakes.

Lincsls1

3,478 posts

147 months

Saturday 10th September 2022
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I very much doubt its a brake line issue.
Might be worth taking out the rear pads completely and seeing if the car wheels will rotate both ways with the rear jacked up? Maybe try it jacked up with the pads in first, then remove them and see what happens.
I'm thinking diff issue, the grinding noise being the internals of the diff, if you prove this to be so, an diff oil level check and then change would be my first port of call.

Lincsls1

3,478 posts

147 months

Saturday 10th September 2022
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Jacked up, engine running and in gear, run the rear wheels up to speed.
Also, check the driveshaft on the problem side. Could be a U/J issue.

lobster940

Original Poster:

664 posts

162 months

Saturday 10th September 2022
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Thanks. I will change the oil in the diff and see if that works. Doesn't look too tricky if YouTube is anything to go by.

Should I worry the diff is toast if it's been grinding with insufficient/no oil to lubricate?

Lincsls1

3,478 posts

147 months

Saturday 10th September 2022
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I doubt a 2nd hand diff is expensive on one of these. Just change the oil and see what happens.

e21Keith

198 posts

37 months

Wednesday 14th September 2022
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I've seen something similar on a BMW with a LSD, it made a grinding noise but didn't jam the wheel. I think if you had a problem with an open diff it would be howling by now.

lobster940

Original Poster:

664 posts

162 months

Tuesday 27th September 2022
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So the issue was that the top bolt in the bracket holding the rear OS brake calliper to the chassis was missing. The bottom one was there. This meant that, when I pressed the brake pedal with the car moving, the brake caliper pivoted forwards, locking against the wheel hub. This prevented forward movement, yet allowed reverse movement.

Fit a bolt to the missing hole...and lovely smooth braking!

lobster940

Original Poster:

664 posts

162 months

Tuesday 27th September 2022
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996Keef said:
Sounds like the caliper has come loose and is jamming on the wheel
Precisely...

e21Keith

198 posts

37 months

Saturday 1st October 2022
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Sounds like somebody didn't do their job properly last time the rear brakes were done, not only should that bolt be tight enough that it doesn't come undone, it would normally be threadlocked as well. Good job it wasn't the bottom bolt missing, the calliper could have jammed against the rear wheel and locked it at whatever speed you were travelling . Perhaps a good idea to avoid that garage in future!

lobster940

Original Poster:

664 posts

162 months

Monday 17th October 2022
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The garage was inevitably me!

I should apply some threadlock, yes.