Buying an NA

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tribalsurfer

Original Poster:

1,164 posts

126 months

Tuesday 7th September 2021
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Tomorrow night I am going to look at an NA. All looks good from the pics and at just below £2500 with a years MOT I'm thinking there will be hiden issues but at the price there is definitely scope in my budget to take it on and repair in the future. The interesting part is I've started looking at insurance quotes and when i put in the reg it comes up as a BBR Turbo. Thing is it's not got much detail in the advert and I am not wholly familiar with the BBR Turbo's. Are these desirable ? Anything I should be looking out for ?

Edited by tribalsurfer on Tuesday 7th September 20:22

Sbloxxy

120 posts

234 months

Wednesday 8th September 2021
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Extremely desirable and quite rare. The obvious giveaway will be a turbocharger located to the right/front of the engine. They usually had BBR stickers on the cam cover too. Should have a tiny switch in the centre console glovebox.
Very cheap if its not too rusty and really is a BBR.

Stevil

10,689 posts

236 months

Wednesday 8th September 2021
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Pop up some pics if you do go for it, had one nearly 20 years ago and it was great fun.

tribalsurfer

Original Poster:

1,164 posts

126 months

Thursday 9th September 2021
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Big fat disappointment. Roof was knackered, drivers window didn't lower. Bodywork was OK, but .................................... absolutely no sign of a turbo. Bloke said he would change the roof and fix the window so may still return and take it for a test drive but the search continues.

covmutley

3,125 posts

197 months

Friday 10th September 2021
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Window is a very common fault, wouldn't let it pit you off. Biggest thing is why was he advertising it as a turbo? Seems dodgy?

Lincsls1

3,480 posts

147 months

Friday 10th September 2021
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covmutley said:
Window is a very common fault, wouldn't let it pit you off. Biggest thing is why was he advertising it as a turbo? Seems dodgy?
He never said the seller was, just that insurance searches were bringing it up as a BBR turbo when the registration was entered.

covmutley

3,125 posts

197 months

Friday 10th September 2021
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Whoops, missed that.


tonymor

1,494 posts

179 months

Thursday 30th September 2021
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Are you still looking to buy a mk1?

threespires

4,359 posts

218 months

Thursday 30th September 2021
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Mazda MX-5 BBR Turbo

rotaryjam

655 posts

108 months

Saturday 30th October 2021
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Can I hijack this thread? I'm looking to buy an MK1 so any advice appreciated.

I'm particularly interested in:

How many should I pay for good one? Prices seems to vary quite a bit

Are there any particularly better or worse colours to get?

Is an import as valuable as a UK model?

Is the 1.8 more desirable than the 1.6?


Lincsls1

3,480 posts

147 months

Saturday 30th October 2021
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First of all, a great choice. The MK1 is a proper modern classic. I had one a few years ago and it was the only proper sports car I've driven!
It is not fast. They aren't supposed to be. Instead you wind them up and enjoy the experience of super direct steering, light weight and great handling without being terrified.
Consider the tax difference, £170 per year for the 1.6, £280 for the 1.8.
For me, I'd be happy with another 1.6 in red! And I pay good money £4-5k? for an excellent rot free one rather than a cheaper car riddled with tin worm.

Pit Pony

9,242 posts

128 months

Saturday 30th October 2021
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We have a 1997 mk1 mx5 in UK Monza spec. In both balls at present, but soon to be back on the road. Ready for winter.

Ours had 2 problems soon after we got it. Cables snapped in the drivers window mechanism. And the bolts in the wing mirrors sheared off when we attempted to move the mirrors.

We have added a heated rear window a better stereo, but still quote basic and

Don't do these things ever.

A cobalt blue stainless exhaust.

And

Power steering. Needed due to a problem my wife has with her shoulder. It's not great.

The Monza is a 1.6 and only 92 bhp. Which is okay as long as you avoid motorways (made worse by a noisy exhaust)

Stevil

10,689 posts

236 months

Saturday 30th October 2021
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Not sure on those tax prices as my 1992 1.6 Eunos costs circa £280 for the year to tax.

1.6 revs a bit sweeter than the 1.8 but there's very little in it, given the choice of two cars, a 1.6 and a 1.8 I'd pick the one in better condition.

Japanese cars (Eunos Roadster) are generally more sought after as they both come with better kit as standard, and haven't suffered as many UK winters as the UK cars, so tend to be less rusty, though if the car has been over here 20 years that advantage disappears somewhat.

This page gives a good indication of what the Japanese special edition cars came with, something like an RS limited is about as good as they got and command a high premium if they're intact and still have the original seats and wheels.

I spent a while looking for mine as I wanted one that wasn't rusty and hadn't had dubious sill repairs done on it, so whilst the paintwork is not great, the underside is really clean. It's an S Special and whilst the LSD is probably doing next to nothing by now, I've fitted lightweight 14" wheels to it and Ohlins coilovers, not fast by any standards but it never fails to leave me with a massive grin.

Edited by Stevil on Saturday 30th October 08:40

Lincsls1

3,480 posts

147 months

Saturday 30th October 2021
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Stevil said:
Not sure on those tax prices as my 1992 1.6 Eunos costs circa £280 for the year to tax.
https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax-rate-tables/rates-for-cars-and-light-goods-vehicles-registered-before-1-march-2001

Is the 1.6 actually over 1600cc? I'm sure mine fell into the lower bracket.

Stevil

10,689 posts

236 months

Saturday 30th October 2021
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Lincsls1 said:
Stevil said:
Not sure on those tax prices as my 1992 1.6 Eunos costs circa £280 for the year to tax.
https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax-rate-tables/rates-for-cars-and-light-goods-vehicles-registered-before-1-march-2001

Is the 1.6 actually over 1600cc? I'm sure mine fell into the lower bracket.
They categorise it as over 1549cc now, the 1.6 is 1598cc

https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax-rate-tables/rates-f...

Did have to go off and check myself smile

nessiemac

1,641 posts

248 months

Saturday 30th October 2021
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Lincsls1 said:
Stevil said:
Not sure on those tax prices as my 1992 1.6 Eunos costs circa £280 for the year to tax.
https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax-rate-tables/rates-for-cars-and-light-goods-vehicles-registered-before-1-march-2001

Is the 1.6 actually over 1600cc? I'm sure mine fell into the lower bracket.
My 1991 UK 1.6 is £280 for the year as well.

Lincsls1

3,480 posts

147 months

Saturday 30th October 2021
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Stevil said:
They categorise it as over 1549cc now, the 1.6 is 1598cc

https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax-rate-tables/rates-f...

Did have to go off and check myself smile
Well ain't that a bummer!
Sorry guys.

rotaryjam

655 posts

108 months

Saturday 30th October 2021
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Thanks for all the info, really helpful.

Is there any particular colours to avoid or ones that are more sought after?

nessiemac

1,641 posts

248 months

Saturday 30th October 2021
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Everyone's different so just look for the colour you like.

I love Mariner blue but couldn't find a decent one in my price range and ended up with silver which was not my first choice but the best condition.


MX5. BROOKWOOD. (1 of 1) by nessiemac1, on Flickr



nessiemac

1,641 posts

248 months

Saturday 30th October 2021
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rotaryjam said:
Thanks for all the info, really helpful.

Is there any particular colours to avoid or ones that are more sought after?
The only ones to avoid are the ones that are the colour of rust!